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24.5; unable to get the "~" character on a Swiss-French keyboard under OSX

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From: Thierry Jeanneret <thierry.jeanneret <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: 24.5; unable to get the "~" character on a Swiss-French keyboard
 under OSX 
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 18:21:40 +0200

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Hi There,

I am using the sml-mode/REPL from inside Emacs. When I try to get the "~" character (normally Right Alt-n on my Swiss-French keyboard) I get what looks to be the first command of the history buffer instead.

When I use the REPL from inside a terminal I don't have this problem, the "~" is available as usual, as here.

My config :

MacOS 10.12. 
French language
Swiss-french keyboard
sml/nj from http://www.smlnj.org/dist/working/110.80/ <http://www.smlnj.org/dist/working/110.80/>.
Standard sml-mode, from Stefan Monnier

Stefan gave me a work-around allowing me to get this character when I need it. But this may be a bug so I contact you directly. So did I.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Thierry



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Message #12 received at 24729 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>
To: Thierry Jeanneret <thierry.jeanneret <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 24729 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: bug#24729: 24.5; unable to get the "~" character on a
 Swiss-French keyboard under OSX
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:01:17 +0100

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:21:40PM +0200, Thierry Jeanneret wrote:
> Hi There,
> 
> I am using the sml-mode/REPL from inside Emacs. When I try to get
> the "~" character (normally Right Alt-n on my Swiss-French keyboard)
> I get what looks to be the first command of the history buffer
> instead.
> 
> When I use the REPL from inside a terminal I don't have this
> problem, the "~" is available as usual, as here.

Hi,

This is a long‐standing problem with the defaults on non‐US English
keyboards. There are a number of work‐arounds available.

See previous (non‐)discussion at:

https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5011
-- 
Alan Third

Message #15 received at 24729 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Jeanneret <thierry.jeanneret <at> gmail.com>
To: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>
Cc: 24729 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: bug#24729: 24.5;
 unable to get the "~" character on a Swiss-French keyboard under OSX
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:26:13 +0200

Hi Alan,

Thank you for your answer. I will try to unbind the right M-n combination, but I will not spend too much time with this since Stefan gave me another trick.

Best regards,

Thierry


> Le 19 oct. 2016 à 13:01, Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> a écrit :
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:21:40PM +0200, Thierry Jeanneret wrote:
>> Hi There,
>> 
>> I am using the sml-mode/REPL from inside Emacs. When I try to get
>> the "~" character (normally Right Alt-n on my Swiss-French keyboard)
>> I get what looks to be the first command of the history buffer
>> instead.
>> 
>> When I use the REPL from inside a terminal I don't have this
>> problem, the "~" is available as usual, as here.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is a long‐standing problem with the defaults on non‐US English
> keyboards. There are a number of work‐arounds available.
> 
> See previous (non‐)discussion at:
> 
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5011
> -- 
> Alan Third

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