GNU bug report logs - #19792
Emacs and Voiceover

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From: Antonio Gervasoni <agervasoni <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Emacs and Voiceover
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:39:52 -0500

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Hi,

What I'd like to report is not exactly a bug (or maybe it is) and I'm not
really sure if you could fix it or if I should be writing to someone else.

I have a blind student who would benefit a lot from using Emacs but,
unfortunately, it doesn't work for him because he's on a Mac and Voiceover
can't read information correctly from the Emacs window (I have installed
the "Emacs for Mac OS X" that can be downloaded from here
<http://emacsformacosx.com/>). A blind friend who runs Emacs on Linux has
told me that Orca has the same problem and that emacspeak is the only
solution that worked for him.

The method of installation of emacspeak on a Mac is pretty obscure. I have
been able to find a few old pages with dozens of steps and none of them
guarantee that it will work. And, besides, I don't have the necessary
skills to try that approach either.

I wonder if the problem with Voiceover could be solved from the Emacs side
(because, expecting Apple to to anything is of course ridiculous), which
may also solve the problem with Orca.

If there's anything on your power to solve this, I'm sure a lot of people
would be very grateful, including me and my student. If not, could you
please point me out to whom I could write for help?

Sincerely,

Antonio Gervasoni

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Message #8 received at 19792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu <at> math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>
To: Antonio Gervasoni <agervasoni <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 19792 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19792: Emacs and Voiceover
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:03:23 +0900

>>>>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:39:52 -0500, Antonio Gervasoni <agervasoni <at> gmail.com> said:

> I have a blind student who would benefit a lot from using Emacs but,
> unfortunately, it doesn't work for him because he's on a Mac and
> Voiceover can't read information correctly from the Emacs window (I
> have installed the "Emacs for Mac OS X" that can be downloaded from
> here <http://emacsformacosx.com/>). A blind friend who runs Emacs on
> Linux has told me that Orca has the same problem and that emacspeak
> is the only solution that worked for him.

Emacs Mac port (*) has some experimental accessibility support on OS
X, but I'm not sure how much it is practical about regular use with
VoiceOver.

*: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-01/msg01040.html

   				     YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
				mituharu <at> math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp

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