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30.1; kill-this-buffer not works normally

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Reported by: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 17:44:03 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Tags: notabug

Merged with 76575

Found in version 30.1

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From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 30.1; kill-this-buffer not works normally
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:25:32 +0800
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I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistently
gives the output:

"command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
parameters"

and doesn't kill the current buffer.


In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.41,
 cairo version 1.18.0) of 2025-02-24 built on lcy02-amd64-070
Repository revision: 2d442455d1b98a9f631889ca63f3c4f21d9062b5
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Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#76526; Package emacs. (Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:12:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76526: 30.1; kill-this-buffer not works normally
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:10:24 +0200
tags 76526 notabug
thanks

> From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:25:32 +0800
> 
> I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistently
> gives the output:
> 
> "command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
> parameters"
> 
> and doesn't kill the current buffer.

Yes.  This is the intended behavior.  The function's doc string says:

  This command must be bound to a mouse event, and can be reliably
  invoked only from the menu bar, otherwise it could decide to silently
  do nothing or signal an error.  Use ‘kill-current-buffer’ if you
  need to invoke a similar command from keyboard.

This is not a bug.




Added tag(s) notabug. Request was from Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:12:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#76526; Package emacs. (Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:22:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #13 received at 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76526: 30.1; kill-this-buffer not works normally
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:21:00 +0000
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> tags 76526 notabug
> thanks
>
>> From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:25:32 +0800
>>
>> I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistently
>> gives the output:
>>
>> "command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
>> parameters"
>>
>> and doesn't kill the current buffer.
>
> Yes.  This is the intended behavior.  The function's doc string says:
>
>   This command must be bound to a mouse event, and can be reliably
>   invoked only from the menu bar, otherwise it could decide to silently
>   do nothing or signal an error.  Use ‘kill-current-buffer’ if you
>   need to invoke a similar command from keyboard.
>
> This is not a bug.

FWIW, I think we should improve this.  It's bad that we show this
command in M-x completions when we already know that it won't work.

Perhaps this particular command/function should also be renamed to
menu-bar--kill-this-buffer, or something like that, so that users aren't
mislead to think that they can invoke it outside the menu bar.




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#76526; Package emacs. (Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:25:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #16 received at 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com, 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76526: 30.1; kill-this-buffer not works normally
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:24:26 +0200
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:21:00 +0000
> Cc: 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > tags 76526 notabug
> > thanks
> >
> >> From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com>
> >> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:25:32 +0800
> >>
> >> I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistently
> >> gives the output:
> >>
> >> "command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
> >> parameters"
> >>
> >> and doesn't kill the current buffer.
> >
> > Yes.  This is the intended behavior.  The function's doc string says:
> >
> >   This command must be bound to a mouse event, and can be reliably
> >   invoked only from the menu bar, otherwise it could decide to silently
> >   do nothing or signal an error.  Use ‘kill-current-buffer’ if you
> >   need to invoke a similar command from keyboard.
> >
> > This is not a bug.
> 
> FWIW, I think we should improve this.  It's bad that we show this
> command in M-x completions when we already know that it won't work.
> 
> Perhaps this particular command/function should also be renamed to
> menu-bar--kill-this-buffer, or something like that, so that users aren't
> mislead to think that they can invoke it outside the menu bar.

I don't see how a different name will help.  What can be more explicit
than what the doc string, which is the first place users should look
when a command doesn't do what they expect?




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#76526; Package emacs. (Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:37:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #19 received at 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com, 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76526: 30.1; kill-this-buffer not works normally
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:35:53 +0000
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:21:00 +0000
>> Cc: 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>>
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>>
>> > tags 76526 notabug
>> > thanks
>> >
>> >> From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com>
>> >> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:25:32 +0800
>> >>
>> >> I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistently
>> >> gives the output:
>> >>
>> >> "command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
>> >> parameters"
>> >>
>> >> and doesn't kill the current buffer.
>> >
>> > Yes.  This is the intended behavior.  The function's doc string says:
>> >
>> >   This command must be bound to a mouse event, and can be reliably
>> >   invoked only from the menu bar, otherwise it could decide to silently
>> >   do nothing or signal an error.  Use ‘kill-current-buffer’ if you
>> >   need to invoke a similar command from keyboard.
>> >
>> > This is not a bug.
>>
>> FWIW, I think we should improve this.  It's bad that we show this
>> command in M-x completions when we already know that it won't work.
>>
>> Perhaps this particular command/function should also be renamed to
>> menu-bar--kill-this-buffer, or something like that, so that users aren't
>> mislead to think that they can invoke it outside the menu bar.
>
> I don't see how a different name will help.  What can be more explicit
> than what the doc string, which is the first place users should look
> when a command doesn't do what they expect?

A different name is more explicit because you don't have to look at the
docstring.




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#76526; Package emacs. (Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:47:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #22 received at 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com, 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76526: 30.1; kill-this-buffer not works normally
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:45:53 +0200
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:35:53 +0000
> Cc: matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com, 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> >> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:21:00 +0000
> >> Cc: 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >>
> >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> >>
> >> > tags 76526 notabug
> >> > thanks
> >> >
> >> >> From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com>
> >> >> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:25:32 +0800
> >> >>
> >> >> I tested the function kill-this-buffer with "emacs -Q", it consistently
> >> >> gives the output:
> >> >>
> >> >> "command-execute: kill-this-buffer must be bound to an event with
> >> >> parameters"
> >> >>
> >> >> and doesn't kill the current buffer.
> >> >
> >> > Yes.  This is the intended behavior.  The function's doc string says:
> >> >
> >> >   This command must be bound to a mouse event, and can be reliably
> >> >   invoked only from the menu bar, otherwise it could decide to silently
> >> >   do nothing or signal an error.  Use ‘kill-current-buffer’ if you
> >> >   need to invoke a similar command from keyboard.
> >> >
> >> > This is not a bug.
> >>
> >> FWIW, I think we should improve this.  It's bad that we show this
> >> command in M-x completions when we already know that it won't work.
> >>
> >> Perhaps this particular command/function should also be renamed to
> >> menu-bar--kill-this-buffer, or something like that, so that users aren't
> >> mislead to think that they can invoke it outside the menu bar.
> >
> > I don't see how a different name will help.  What can be more explicit
> > than what the doc string, which is the first place users should look
> > when a command doesn't do what they expect?
> 
> A different name is more explicit because you don't have to look at the
> docstring.

When did it stop someone from complaining?




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bug#76526; Package emacs. (Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:53:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #25 received at 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com, 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76526: 30.1; kill-this-buffer not works normally
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:52:23 +0000
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> When did it stop someone from complaining?

We do have our fair share of space bar heaters, that's true.

https://xkcd.com/1172/




Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'normal' Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:50:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#76526; Package emacs. (Tue, 25 Feb 2025 05:04:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #30 received at 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Magi Feeney <matrixfeeney <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 76526 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#76526: 30.1; kill-this-buffer not works normally
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 12:59:52 +0800
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Thank you for the prompt response! kill-current-buffer works for me. In
addition, I agree that the name kill-this-buffer is a bit misleading,
because before 30.1, it had the same functionality as kill-current-buffer.
If it only applies to menu-bar now, making it explicit would be clearer,
just my humble opinion.

On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 at 03:52, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
> > When did it stop someone from complaining?
>
> We do have our fair share of space bar heaters, that's true.
>
> https://xkcd.com/1172/
>
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Forcibly Merged 76526 76575. Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Wed, 26 Feb 2025 02:56:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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