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Warnings given when emacs is installed in a directory containing non-ASCII characters on Windows

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From: tuug <at> gmx.us
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Warnings given when emacs is installed in a directory containing
 non-ASCII characters on Windows
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:22:45 +0100

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: tuug <at> gmx.us
Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76525: Warnings given when emacs is installed in a directory
 containing non-ASCII characters on Windows
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:17:44 +0200

> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:22:45 +0100
> Sensitivity: Normal
> From: tuug--- via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
> 
> I obtained my emacs build from
> https://github.com/kiennq/emacs-build/releases/tag/v31.331.20250202.5e12843.

We don't know what that build is and what sources does it use.  Can
you use the Windows binaries from the GNU FTP site instead?

> After launching the GUI version of emacs, the following warnings spew in the "Warnings" buffer (see
> attatchment)
> 
>  ■  Warning (native-compiler): c:\Users\שזדס\scoop\apps\emacs-kiennq-ucrt-mps\current\bin\libgccjit-0.dll: error: error invoking gcc driver

What is the actual name of that directory?  And what is your system
codepage?  You can answer the latter question by typing inside Emacs

  M-: w32-ansi-code-page RET

Also, do you have a working installation of GCC, Binutils, and
libgccjit on that machine?  The error messages seem to indicate that
something is broken in the compiler or Binutils installation.

Message #13 received at 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: tuug <at> gmx.us
Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76525: Warnings given when emacs is installed in a
 directory containing non-ASCII characters on Windows
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 17:51:55 +0200

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> From: tuug <at> gmx.us
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 01:26:31 +0100
> 
> I installed this special build into C:\Users\שזדס\scoop\apps\emacs-kiennq-ucrt-mps\current.
>  
> Running the official Windows binary from GNU's FTP site (specifically
> "https://ftpmirror.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-30/emacs-30.1.zip"),
> yields the following errors in the console:
> Warning: arch-dependent data dir 'c:/Users/ש×â€
> “דס/scoop/apps/emacs/current/libexec/emacs/30.1/x86_64-w64-mingw32/': No such file or
> directory
> Warning: arch-independent data dir 'c:/Users/ש×â€
> “דס/scoop/apps/emacs/current/share/emacs/30.1/etc/': No such file or directory
> Warning: Lisp directory 'c:/Users/ש×â€
> “דס/scoop/apps/emacs/current/share/emacs/30.1/lisp': No such file or directory
>  
> and shows an error window preventing launch (see attatchment). The jumble of characters is supposed to
> be שזדס.
>  
> Also, my current codepage obtained through chcp shows "Active code page: 65001"

Ah, that explains everything: you have turned on the experimental
Windows feature of using UTF-8 as the system codepage.  This triggers
a known bug (bug#75207), which is currently only fixed in what will
become Emacs 31.  Maybe we should backport it to the Emacs 30 branch,
so that Emacs 30.2 will have it.

To solve this issue, try changing your system codepage so that it is
one of the ANSI 125x codepages, not UTF-8.

Message #16 received at 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sc Sg <tuug <at> gmx.us>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76525: Warnings given when emacs is installed in a
 directory containing non-ASCII characters on Windows
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:03:55 +0100

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Sc Sg <tuug <at> gmx.us>
Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76525: Warnings given when emacs is installed in a
 directory containing non-ASCII characters on Windows
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 21:36:27 +0200

> From: Sc Sg <tuug <at> gmx.us>
> Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:03:55 +0100
> 
> Setting the codepage to 1252 via chcp does not work; the same error shows. Unsetting UTF-8 as my
> system's codepage
> shows a different error: emacs: could not load dump file
> "C:\Users\????\scoop\apps\emacs\current\bin\emacs.pdmp": Invalid argument

I asked you what is the real name of that directory.  Can you tell me
what is its name as shown by the Windows File Explorer?  Codepage 1252
supports only Western European scripts, so if the name of the above
directory needs other characters, 1252 will not work.

An alternative is to install Emacs 31, if you can find a Windows build
of it somewhere.  (Or build it yourself, if you can.)  I believe this
problem should be solved there.

Message #22 received at 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sc Sg <tuug <at> gmx.us>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: bug#76525: Warnings given when emacs is installed in a
 directory containing non-ASCII characters on Windows
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 00:22:12 +0100

The real directory shows in explorer is C:\Users\שזדס\scoop\apps\emacs\current\bin

I tried the following:
* Setting the codepage to 1255; did nothing
* Changing the locale to Hebrew within Control Panel: here's the console output after I changed it:

C:\Users\שזדס>chcp
Active code page: 862

C:\Users\שזדס>emacs
Loading loadup.el (source)...
Dump mode: nil
Using load-path (c:/Users/\327\251\327\226\327\223\327\241/scoop/apps/emacs/current/share/emacs/30.1/site-lisp c:/Users/\327\251\327\226\327\223\327\241/scoop/apps/emacs/current/share/emacs/site-lisp c:/Users/\327\251\327\226\327\223\327\241/scoop/apps/emacs/current/share/emacs/30.1/lisp c:/Users/\327\251\327\226\327\223\327\241/scoop/apps/emacs/current/share/emacs/30.1/lisp/emacs-lisp c:/Users/\327\251\327\226\327\223\327\241/scoop/apps/emacs/current/share/emacs/30.1/lisp/progmodes c:/Users/\327\251\327\226\327\223\327\241/scoop/apps/emacs/current/share/emacs/30.1/lisp/language c:/Users/\327\251\327\226\327\223\327\241/scoop/apps/emacs/current/share/emacs/30.1/lisp/international c:/Users/\327\251\327\226\327\223\327\241/scoop/apps/emacs/current/share/emacs/30.1/lisp/textmodes c:/Users/\327\251\327\226\327\223\327\241/scoop/apps/emacs/current/share/emacs/30.1/lisp/vc)
Wrong type argument: stringp, nil

> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2025 at 8:36 PM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> To: "Sc Sg" <tuug <at> gmx.us>
> Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#76525: Warnings given when emacs is installed in a directory containing non-ASCII characters on Windows
> 
> > From: Sc Sg <tuug <at> gmx.us>
> > Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:03:55 +0100
> > 
> > Setting the codepage to 1252 via chcp does not work; the same error shows. Unsetting UTF-8 as my
> > system's codepage
> > shows a different error: emacs: could not load dump file
> > "C:\Users\????\scoop\apps\emacs\current\bin\emacs.pdmp": Invalid argument
> 
> I asked you what is the real name of that directory.  Can you tell me
> what is its name as shown by the Windows File Explorer?  Codepage 1252
> supports only Western European scripts, so if the name of the above
> directory needs other characters, 1252 will not work.
> 
> An alternative is to install Emacs 31, if you can find a Windows build
> of it somewhere.  (Or build it yourself, if you can.)  I believe this
> problem should be solved there.

Message #25 received at 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: tuug <at> gmx.us
Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76525: Warnings given when emacs is installed in a directory
 containing non-ASCII characters on Windows
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:14:25 +0200

> Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 17:51:55 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> 
> > Also, my current codepage obtained through chcp shows "Active code page: 65001"
> 
> Ah, that explains everything: you have turned on the experimental
> Windows feature of using UTF-8 as the system codepage.  This triggers
> a known bug (bug#75207), which is currently only fixed in what will
> become Emacs 31.  Maybe we should backport it to the Emacs 30 branch,
> so that Emacs 30.2 will have it.

Now done.

Message #28 received at 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Sc Sg <tuug <at> gmx.us>
Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76525: Warnings given when emacs is installed in a
 directory containing non-ASCII characters on Windows
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:36:54 +0200

> From: Sc Sg <tuug <at> gmx.us>
> Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 00:22:12 +0100
> 
> The real directory shows in explorer is C:\Users\שזדס\scoop\apps\emacs\current\bin
> 
> I tried the following:
> * Setting the codepage to 1255; did nothing
> * Changing the locale to Hebrew within Control Panel: here's the console output after I changed it:

OK.  So then the only way to avoid this problem is to find a build of
Emacs 31 from the master branch, where this problem is supposed to be
fixed.  Or build Emacs yourself.  Or wait for Emacs 30.2, since I've
now backported the fix from the master branch.

Sorry.

Message #33 received at 76525-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: tuug <at> gmx.us
Cc: 76525-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76525: Warnings given when emacs is installed in a directory
 containing non-ASCII characters on Windows
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2025 11:36:12 +0200

> Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:36:54 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> 
> > From: Sc Sg <tuug <at> gmx.us>
> > Cc: 76525 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 00:22:12 +0100
> > 
> > The real directory shows in explorer is C:\Users\שזדס\scoop\apps\emacs\current\bin
> > 
> > I tried the following:
> > * Setting the codepage to 1255; did nothing
> > * Changing the locale to Hebrew within Control Panel: here's the console output after I changed it:
> 
> OK.  So then the only way to avoid this problem is to find a build of
> Emacs 31 from the master branch, where this problem is supposed to be
> fixed.  Or build Emacs yourself.  Or wait for Emacs 30.2, since I've
> now backported the fix from the master branch.
> 
> Sorry.

No further comments, so I'm now closing this bug.

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