GNU bug report logs - #22951
25.1.50; Visible bell too big on OSX

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Reported by: sebastien <at> weblogism.com

Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 22:36:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Merged with 22746, 24512

Found in versions 25.0.90, 25.1, 25.1.50

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Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#22951; Package emacs. (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:36:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to sebastien <at> weblogism.com:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org. (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:36:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: sebastien <at> weblogism.com
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.1.50; Visible bell too big on OSX
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:35:01 +0000
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
Since commit bbe8a899ac91f93bcdb14fec8c200cd3f2256987 which increases 
the size of the icon 5 times, the visible bell has become way too big 
and distracting on the master branch: cf. attachments before.png vs. 
after.png on a full screen Emacs frame.


To reproduce:

emacs -Q -eval "(setq visible-bell t)"

and trigger bell by pressing up key until it reaches top of buffer.

Regards,
Sébastien.



In GNU Emacs 25.1.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin15.3.0, NS appkit-1404.34 
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Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#22951; Package emacs. (Tue, 08 Mar 2016 22:47:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at 22951 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com>
To: sebastien <at> weblogism.com
Cc: 22951 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22951: 25.1.50; Visible bell too big on OSX
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:45:49 -0800
>>>>> sebastien  <sebastien <at> weblogism.com> writes:

> Since commit bbe8a899ac91f93bcdb14fec8c200cd3f2256987 which increases the
> size of the icon 5 times, the visible bell has become way too big and
> distracting on the master branch: cf. attachments before.png vs. after.png
> on a full screen Emacs frame.

I guess we need to make this configurable.  I actually asked for the size to
be increased, but others don't want it so large, then we need a way to ask for
the smaller or the larger size.

I'm OK with either one being the default.

-- 
John Wiegley                  GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F
http://newartisans.com                          60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#22951; Package emacs. (Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:25:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 22951 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: sebastien <at> weblogism.com
To: John Wiegley <johnw <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 22951 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#22951: 25.1.50; Visible bell too big on OSX
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:23:56 +0000
Le 08.03.2016 22:45, John Wiegley a écrit :
>>>>>> sebastien  <sebastien <at> weblogism.com> writes:
> 
>> Since commit bbe8a899ac91f93bcdb14fec8c200cd3f2256987 which increases 
>> the
>> size of the icon 5 times, the visible bell has become way too big and
>> distracting on the master branch: cf. attachments before.png vs. 
>> after.png
>> on a full screen Emacs frame.
> 
> I guess we need to make this configurable.  I actually asked for the 
> size to
> be increased, but others don't want it so large, then we need a way to 
> ask for
> the smaller or the larger size.
> 
> I'm OK with either one being the default.

Same here: I don't mind it being so big if indeed there is a way to make 
it smaller.

Thanks,
Sébastien.





Merged 22746 22951. Request was from Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 31 May 2016 21:37:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Merged 22746 22951 24512. Request was from Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:39:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'normal' Request was from Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:22:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#22951; Package emacs. (Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:23:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #20 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: David Ongaro <david.ongaro <at> hamburg.de>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: bug#22951: 25.1.50; Visible bell too big on OSX
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 23:47:36 -0700
At 08.03.2016 22:45, John Wiegley wrote:
>>>>>> sebastien  <address <at> hidden> writes:
> 
>> Since commit bbe8a899ac91f93bcdb14fec8c200cd3f2256987 which increases the
>> size of the icon 5 times, the visible bell has become way too big and
>> distracting on the master branch: cf. attachments before.png vs. after.png
>> on a full screen Emacs frame.
> 
> I guess we need to make this configurable.  I actually asked for the size to
> be increased, but others don't want it so large, then we need a way to ask for
> the smaller or the larger size.
>  
> I'm OK with either one being the default.

Did this ever got implemented? Since I upgraded to Mojave the
visible-bell icon got huge, basically filling the whole middle screen
area. Maybe it's just a Mojave specific bug, but maybe it's something
which could be worked around with a visible-bell size option.

David Ongaro



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