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adding package archives after calling package-initialize lists all their packages as "new"

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From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.0.50; package.el: Thousands of new packages each day
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 14:38:09 +0200

Hello,

I have

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(when (require 'package nil t)
  (package-initialize))

(setq
 package-archives
 '(("gnu"   . "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/")
   ("melpa" . "http://melpa.org/packages/")))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

as only settings related to package.el in my init file.

Whenever I do M-x package-list-packages (once each day), I see a huge
amount of new packages -- ~ 2600 today for example -- most of them from
Melpa.  I guess these are mostly packages with a new version available,
but they appear as "new".  It behaves like this since some weeks.

Is anyone else seeing this?  I find this inconvenient, since I
don't see when (really) new packages were added.


Thanks in advance,

Michael.



In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.34 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.16.6)
 of 2015-10-17
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Message #16 received at 21703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>, 24467 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 SK Kim <tttuuu888 <at> gmail.com>, 21703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 npostavs <at> users.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: bug#21703: adding package archives after calling
 package-initialize lists all their packages as "new"
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:26:40 +0200

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:

>> It's clearly a bug, and it's made worse in Emacs-27 where
>> package-initialize is called automatically before reading ~/.emacs.
>> IOW, I think "this" needs to be fixed before Emacs-27.1.
>
> I just installed a patch which should reduce the impact of this problem
> in Emacs-27.1: the problem still occurs if you setq package-archives
> after calling package-initialize, but at least you can now setq
> package-archives in your ~/.emacs rather than having to do it in your
> early-init.el.

Is there more to be done here, or is this a sufficient solution to the
issue?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #21 received at 21703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 24467 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs <at> users.sourceforge.net,
 Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>, 21703 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 SK Kim <tttuuu888 <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#21703: adding package archives after calling
 package-initialize lists all their packages as "new"
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 14:39:29 +0200

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:
>
> >> It's clearly a bug, and it's made worse in Emacs-27 where
> >> package-initialize is called automatically before reading ~/.emacs.
> >> IOW, I think "this" needs to be fixed before Emacs-27.1.
> >
> > I just installed a patch which should reduce the impact of this problem
> > in Emacs-27.1: the problem still occurs if you setq package-archives
> > after calling package-initialize, but at least you can now setq
> > package-archives in your ~/.emacs rather than having to do it in your
> > early-init.el.
>
> Is there more to be done here, or is this a sufficient solution to the
> issue?

If nothing more was changed, then the originally reported problem is not
fixed.  That behavior might still annoy or confuse people then.

Michael.

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