GNU bug report logs - #9515
Some glyphs: wrong vertical position

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: David Reitter <david.reitter <at> gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:49:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: fixed

Merged with 9519

Found in version 24.0.50

Fixed in version 25.1

Done: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>

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From: David Reitter <david.reitter <at> gmail.com>
To: Bug-Gnu-Emacs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Some glyphs: wrong vertical position
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:43:43 -0400

Package:emacs,ns

Curly single quotes (curly apostrophes) don't display correctly. To replicate: create a new buffer and enter this text: ‘curly apostrophes’.

This has been reported to happen in recent Emacs 24 builds as well.

The character in question is:

        character: ‘ (8216, #o20030, #x2018)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
       code point: 0x2018
           syntax: . 	which means: punctuation
         category: .:Base, c:Chinese, h:Korean, j:Japanese
      buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x98
        file code: #xE2 #x80 #x98 (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix)
          display: by this font (glyph code)
    nil:-apple-Apple_Symbols-medium-normal-normal-*-34-*-*-*-p-0-iso10646-1 (#x2FC)

Character code properties: customize what to show
  name: LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
  old-name: SINGLE TURNED COMMA QUOTATION MARK
  general-category: Pi (Punctuation, Initial quote)
  decomposition: (8216) ('‘')



Begin forwarded message:

From: Piet van Oostrum <piet <at> vanoostrum.org>
Date: September 7, 2011 11:11:13 AM EDT
To: aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org
Subject: [Aquamacs-bugs] 23.3.50; Size of curly single quotes
Reply-To: Bug reports for Aquamacs Emacs <aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org>

In my Aquamacs the curly single quotes (curly apostrophes) don't display correctly. To replicate: create a new buffer and enter this text: ‘curly apostrophes’.

Firstly, the opening apostrophe is too low; it is about centered on the height of the lower case letters instead of on top. Moreover both the opening and the closing quotes seem too small compared with the rest of the font, although the closing quote sits on the proper height. 
This has been the case in previous versions of Aquamacs also.
It also happens with different fonts, I have tried several ones and it doesn't make a difference.
I have made a screen dump with the font changed to Monaco 64pt, just to make it more visible. Normally I use 12pt. In this size the opening quote looks more like a centered dot, unless you use a magnifier. As comparison I have made a screen dump of the same text with the same font in TextEdit. Here the text is bigger overall, but also the quotes are bigger relative to the text.

The screen dumps are at http://www.pietvanoostrum.com/Images/Emacs.png and http://www.pietvanoostrum.com/Images/Textedit.png


In GNU Emacs 23.3.50.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.8.0, NS apple-appkit-949.54)
of 2011-08-04 on braeburn.aquamacs.org - Aquamacs Distribution 2.3a
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1038
configured using `configure  '--with-ns' '--without-x' 'CC=gcc' 'CFLAGS=-O3 -fno-tree-pre -falign-loops -g -arch i386' 'LDFLAGS=-O3 -fno-tree-pre -falign-loops -g -arch i386''

Important settings:
 value of $LC_ALL: nil
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 value of $LC_TIME: nil
 value of $LANG: nil
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 locale-coding-system: nil
 default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Summary

Minor modes in effect:
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Merged 9515 9519. Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:21:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.
Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#9515; Package emacs. (Tue, 24 May 2016 19:01:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #10 received at 9515 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>
To: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa <at> freenet.de>
Cc: 9515 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 9519 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9519: 24.0.50;
 the NS variant shows the U+20xy quotes always in ugly Apple Symbols
 font
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 20:00:16 +0100

Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa <at> freenet.de> writes:

> These typographical quotes
>
> 	‘;  2018  LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
> 	’;  2019  RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
> 	‚;  201A  SINGLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK
> 	‛;  201B  SINGLE HIGH-REVERSED-9 QUOTATION MARK
> 	“;  201C  LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK
> 	”;  201D  RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK
> 	„;  201E  DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK
> 	‟;  201F  DOUBLE HIGH-REVERSED-9 QUOTATION MARK
>
> are always displayed in ugly Apple Symbols font, which puts the low quotes much too high and the high quotes much too low.

I believe the default for these characters is now Menlo, which looks OK
to me.

I'm going to close this bug report, but if you disagree, you can re-open
the bug report and let us know.
-- 
Alan Third
Added tag(s) fixed. Request was from Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 24 May 2016 19:01:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.
bug marked as fixed in version 25.1, send any further explanations to 9515 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and David Reitter <david.reitter <at> gmail.com> Request was from Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 24 May 2016 19:01:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.
bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:24:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.
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