GNU bug report logs - #79070
[PATCH] Fix macOS dictation post NSTextInputClient migration in v30

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Alvaro Ramirez <alvaro <at> xenodium.com>

Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 12:27:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: patch

Merged with 76765, 76771

Found in version 30.1

Fixed in version 31.1

Done: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann <at> gmail.com>

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From: Alvaro Ramirez <alvaro <at> xenodium.com>
To: Stéphane Marks <shipmints <at> gmail.com>
Cc: gerd.moellmann <at> gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, kickingvegas <at> gmail.com, 79070 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas <at> gmail.com
Subject: bug#79070: [PATCH] Fix macOS dictation post NSTextInputClient migration in v30
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 17:15:27 +0100
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Alvaro Ramirez <alvaro <at> xenodium.com> writes:

>  On 22 Jul 2025, at 15:23, Stéphane Marks <shipmints <at> gmail.com> 
>  wrote:
>
>  On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 10:21 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> 
>  wrote:
>
>  > From: Alvaro Ramirez <alvaro <at> xenodium.com>
>  > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 15:00:18 +0100
>  > Cc: Stéphane Marks <shipmints <at> gmail.com>,
>  >  Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
>  >  79070 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
>  >  kickingvegas <at> gmail.com,
>  >  stefankangas <at> gmail.com
>  >
>  > +1 I’d like to propose we treat macOS 12.7.6 / Intel as a 
>  > separate issue if that’s ok?
>
>  If that is what we want to do, then the PROBLEMS entry should 
>  be
>  updated to say that older versions of macOS are not supported 
>  by this
>  feature in Emacs.
>
>  But, older than what specific macOS version will be the 
>  question to answer,
>
> We can only go with the information we have available as of 
> today, given the hardware and macOS versions we have
> access to. With new data points, we would update this info.
>
> I’m happy to update PROBLEMS with the data we know today (maybe 
> something like “There are reports of this feature
> being unavailable for macOS 12 users").

Updated PROBLEMS (attaching 
0005-Enabled-macOS-dictation-post-NSTextInputClient-migration.patch)

>  and why it's broken/incomplete is another question.
>
> I’m running out of ideas to fix on hardware (and OS version) I 
> don’t have access to. One thing that comes to mind is
> patching with the rollback, since I was able to get dictation 
> working that way also. This may not be a future-proof solution
> to submit upstream, but helps unblock your use-case using local 
> builds.

A tiny bit of additional info with respect to roll back (yields 
deprecation warning) vs roll forward fix... macOS seems to use a 
different dictation mechanism after NSTextInputClient was 
introduced (Emacs v30). Attaching screenshots showing different UI 
dictation triggered by either patch.

[rollback.jpg (image/jpeg, attachment)]
[rollforward.jpg (image/jpeg, attachment)]
[0005-Enabled-macOS-dictation-post-NSTextInputClient-migration.patch (text/x-patch, attachment)]

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