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raising hell (frames)

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From: Ship Mints <shipmints <at> gmail.com>
To: Christopher Stacy <cstacy <at> dtpq.com>
Cc: 77160 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#77160: raising hell (frames)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 19:48:22 -0400

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On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 19:44 Christopher Stacy <cstacy <at> dtpq.com> wrote:

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> On 3/21/25 7:32 PM, Ship Mints wrote:
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> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 19:29 Christopher Stacy <cstacy <at> dtpq.com> wrote:
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>> On 3/21/25 7:16 PM, Ship Mints wrote:
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>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 7:11 PM Christopher Stacy <cstacy <at> dtpq.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> On 3/21/25 6:32 PM, Ship Mints wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 6:16 PM Christopher Stacy <cstacy <at> dtpq.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I forgot to say: This is all about fullscreen frames.
>>>>
>>>> You never use them. I use fullscreen exclusively, for Emacs.
>>>>
>>>> When I am in Emacs (which is all day every day), I just want Emacs in
>>>> front of me. No menu bars, titlebars. or anything!
>>>>
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Firefox does the stupid effect in full screen mode, too, turns out.
>>>> So we can't look there for the answer.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think the correct solution is to change a setting on the OS,
>>>> since railwaycat Emacs does the right thing without external
>>>> adjustments.
>>>>
>>>> This bug is in fact what has kept me on his hacked Emacs all these
>>>> years. But due to other bugs I have been forced to upgrade to Emacs 30,
>>>> and I don't think he's going to update from 29.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at nsfns and nsterm 29.4 vs. 30.1 I don't see anything that
>>> stands out.
>>>
>>> Where did you get your 29.4 and 30.1 builds?
>>>
>>> The bugs forcing me to upgrade to 30.1 are entirely unrelated to
>>> windowing. (Just other things that were broken and recently fixed.)
>>>
>>> Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2113
>>> System Description:  macOS 12.7.6
>>>
>>> Emacs 29 is the railwaycat version from Homebrew.
>>> This has the behavior that I want (no effects).
>>> brew tap railwaycat/emacsmacport
>>> Which supposedly comes from:
>>> https://github.com/railwaycat/homebrew-emacsmacport
>>> GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin20.6.0, Carbon Version 164
>>> AppKit 2022.7) of 2023-08-08
>>>
>>> Emacs 30.1 I got from: https://emacsformacosx.com/
>>> (I wish I knew who that entity is. I wonder if it has malware.)
>>> GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS appkit-1671.60
>>> Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G9323)) of 2025-02-24
>>>
>>> Is there an easy way to tell what compiler options were used on these
>>> builds? (Maybe some emacs command will tell me?)
>>>
>> It doesn't really take much effort to click around Caldwell's site and
>> find out more.  You should.
>>
>> What is a "Caldwell"?
>>
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> You'll see.
>
> Not if I don't have the URL.
> I have no idea what you're talking about.
>

You gave it to us
https://emacsformacosx.com/

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