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raising hell (frames)

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From: Christopher Stacy <cstacy <at> dtpq.com>
To: Ship Mints <shipmints <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 77160 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#77160: raising hell (frames)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 19:29:16 -0400

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On 3/21/25 7:16 PM, Ship Mints wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 7:11 PM Christopher Stacy <cstacy <at> dtpq.com> wrote:
>
>     On 3/21/25 6:32 PM, Ship Mints wrote:
>>     On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 6:16 PM Christopher Stacy
>>     <cstacy <at> dtpq.com> wrote:
>>
>>         Yes, I forgot to say: This is all about fullscreen frames.
>>
>>         You never use them. I use fullscreen exclusively, for Emacs.
>>
>>         When I am in Emacs (which is all day every day), I just want
>>         Emacs in
>>         front of me. No menu bars, titlebars. or anything!
>>
>>         :)
>>
>>         Firefox does the stupid effect in full screen mode, too,
>>         turns out.
>>         So we can't look there for the answer.
>>
>>         I don't think the correct solution is to change a setting on
>>         the OS,
>>         since railwaycat Emacs does the right thing without external
>>         adjustments.
>>
>>         This bug is in fact what has kept me on his hacked Emacs all
>>         these
>>         years. But due to other bugs I have been forced to upgrade to
>>         Emacs 30,
>>         and I don't think he's going to update from 29.
>>
>>
>>     Looking at nsfns and nsterm 29.4 vs. 30.1 I don't see anything
>>     that stands out.
>>
>>     Where did you get your 29.4 and 30.1 builds?
>
>     The bugs forcing me to upgrade to 30.1 are entirely unrelated to
>     windowing. (Just other things that were broken and recently fixed.)
>
>     Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2113
>     System Description:  macOS 12.7.6
>
>     Emacs 29 is the railwaycat version from Homebrew.
>     This has the behavior that I want (no effects).
>     brew tap railwaycat/emacsmacport
>     Which supposedly comes from:
>     https://github.com/railwaycat/homebrew-emacsmacport
>     GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin20.6.0, Carbon Version
>     164 AppKit 2022.7) of 2023-08-08
>
>     Emacs 30.1 I got from: https://emacsformacosx.com/
>     (I wish I knew who that entity is. I wonder if it has malware.)
>     GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS
>     appkit-1671.60 Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G9323)) of 2025-02-24
>
>     Is there an easy way to tell what compiler options were used on
>     these builds? (Maybe some emacs command will tell me?)
>
> It doesn't really take much effort to click around Caldwell's site and 
> find out more.  You should.

What is a "Caldwell"?

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