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30.1; Question regarding eln-cache

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To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: tracker <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#76586: closed (30.1; Question regarding eln-cache)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 08:17:02 +0000

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From: Rahul Martim Juliato <rahuljuliato <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 30.1; Question regarding eln-cache
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 10:55:36 -0300

This is not a bug, more of a question.

I noticed the addition of `comp-native-version-dir' and found it nice
to be there.

I currently have a workflow where I use the same (but not at the same
time) emacs config from a network folder for both macos (arm
architecture) and debian (x64).

In my config I manually set the name of the folders `eln-cache` to be
something like `eln-cache-machine1` and `eln-cache-machine2`.

Since 30.1 became released, the `comp-native-version-dir' is added to
organize the subfolder.

Does it create this magic number taking in consideration also the
machine architecture? If not, could we make
distinctions between architectures when creating the sub-folders?

If I use the same pre-compiled binaries, will this number be the same on
both machines?

I tried to collect some of this info on #emacs <at> Libera.Chat, confusion
was everywhere, we couldn't conclude anything. Could Emacs maintainers
provide us with a little bit more info or where to find it?

Thanks!




In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.38,
 cairo version 1.16.0) of 2025-02-24 built on debian
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)

Configured using:
 'configure --with-native-compilation=aot --with-tree-sitter --with-gif
 --with-png --with-jpeg --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-imagemagick
 --with-pgtk --with-mailutils'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ
IMAGEMAGICK JPEG LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES
NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3
THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Dashboard

Minor modes in effect:
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  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
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  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
/home/rmj/.emacs.d/elpa/transient-20250222.1912/transient hides /usr/local/share/emacs/30.1/lisp/transient
/home/rmj/.emacs.d/elpa/modus-themes-20250220.647/theme-loaddefs hides /usr/local/share/emacs/30.1/lisp/theme-loaddefs

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Memory information:
((conses 16 748467 190575) (symbols 48 29921 19)
 (strings 32 214960 6008) (string-bytes 1 8549689) (vectors 16 52457)
 (vector-slots 8 1316547 238197) (floats 8 1275 55)
 (intervals 56 4166 738) (buffers 992 14))

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Rahul Martim Juliato <rahuljuliato <at> gmail.com>
Cc: shipmints <at> gmail.com, 76586-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76586: 30.1; Question regarding eln-cache
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 10:16:14 +0200

> From: Rahul Martim Juliato <rahuljuliato <at> gmail.com>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 76586 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 19:57:01 -0300
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Let me know if that doesn't work.
> 
> Just finished installing 30.1 on all my machines. I also removed my old
> customization for renaming `eln-cache-[hostname]`, and everything is
> working like a charm.
> 
> > So you are well advised not to do that, even if Emacs gives you enough
> > rope to hang yourself.
> 
> This phrase definitely made my day. Haha!
> 
> 
> Well, as far as I’m concerned, I consider this question very well answered.

Thanks, I'm therefore closing this bug.

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