GNU bug report logs - #67848
29.1; Fix usage of `setq-default' and add explanation

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Xiyue Deng <manphiz <at> gmail.com>

Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 11:19:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: patch

Found in version 29.1

Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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From: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: Xiyue Deng <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
Subject: bug#67848: closed (Re: bug#67848: 29.1; Fix usage of
 `setq-default' and add explanation)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 08:48:02 +0000
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Your bug report

#67848: 29.1; Fix usage of `setq-default' and add explanation

which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed.

The explanation is attached below, along with your original report.
If you require more details, please reply to 67848 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Xiyue Deng <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 67848-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67848: 29.1; Fix usage of `setq-default' and add explanation
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 10:47:09 +0200
> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
> Cc: 67848 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2023 23:00:59 -0800
> 
> While I kind of agree with what you said here, this requires a much
> larger rewrite of the text, because there are several paragraphs that
> span several sections that follows the author's original advice of
> making newly opened files to use text-mode instead of fundamental mode
> by default.  Neither being a writer, nor even a native English speaker,
> I don't consider myself a good candidate to make such a drastic change
> to this classic book.
> 
> So instead I added another footnote at the first sentence of this
> section to suggest that the suggestion was aimed for writers and the
> reader can feel free not to do this.  The new patch is attached.  PTAL.

Thanks, installed on the emacs-29 branch, and closing the bug.

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From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.1; Fix usage of `setq-default' and add explanation
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 03:18:20 -0800
In the lisp intro book, there is a discrepancy in the section "Text and
Auto Fill mode" where the first code example uses "(setq-default
major-mode 'text-mode)"[1] but in the later explanation part the
function was changed to `setq'[2].  It looks like the original change[3]
was to deprecate the usage of "default-major-mode", but forgot to update
the other part.

I have prepared a patch to make it consistent, and also added some extra
text to explain why `setq-default' is required for a buffer local
variable using a foot note.  Will add in the next mail.

[1] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi#n16902
[2] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi#n16946
[3] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=cd61af01c1220b6a7f98189c826edc7535416583



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