Package: emacs;
Reported by: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 20:17:02 UTC
Severity: wishlist
Found in version 29.0.60
Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh <at> janestreet.com> To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Subject: 29.0.60; the default tool bar icons are ugly to modern users and are not customizable Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 16:16:38 -0400
1. Open "emacs -Q" and show it to someone who has spent the last 10 years using popular proprietary applications with big design budgets. 2. Point out the tool bar 3. Observe a look of disgust pass over their face 4. Observe that, if they do still try Emacs, they immediately disable tool-bar-mode, even though it's very useful to new users, because it's so ugly to them. Proposed solution: it should be possible to configure the icons used for a tool bar. Then people could contribute new icon themes which don't clash with modern design aesthetics, and eventually one or more such icon themes could be adopted into Emacs, and perhaps one could even be made the new default icon theme. Alternatively, we could just throw out the current icons and replace them with a minimal and abstract design which hopefully would have mass appeal. But maybe there are people who really like the current icons and would be upset about that? In GNU Emacs 29.0.60 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.15.12, Xaw scroll bars) of 2023-03-13 built on igm-qws-u22796a Repository revision: e759905d2e0828eac4c8164b09113b40f6899656 Repository branch: emacs-29 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000 System Description: CentOS Linux 7 (Core) Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid --with-modules --with-gif=ifavailable' Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM LUCID ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Eshell Minor modes in effect: eshell-prompt-mode: t eshell-hist-mode: t eshell-pred-mode: t eshell-cmpl-mode: t eshell-proc-mode: t eshell-arg-mode: t which-function-mode: t global-git-commit-mode: t magit-auto-revert-mode: t 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