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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>

Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 10:15:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: notabug

Merged with 58637

Found in version 29.0.50

Done: Andrea Corallo <akrl <at> sdf.org>

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From: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 12:14:26 +0200

Where, on the hard-disk of a mac, are the eln-files resulting from the compilation of the package files in .emacs.d/elpa now? I just rebuilt the Emacs.app from the material in git.savannah.gnu.org, without any customizations.

Konrad
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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>, 58625 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58625: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 11:01:03 +0000

Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> writes:

> Where, on the hard-disk of a mac, are the eln-files resulting from the
> compilation of the package files in .emacs.d/elpa now? I just rebuilt
> the Emacs.app from the material in git.savannah.gnu.org, without any
> customizations.

See the variable `native-comp-eln-load-path'.

Please in the future use the help-gnu-emacs mailing list for support
questions.  This mailing list is primarily used for bug reports.
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bug closed, send any further explanations to 58625 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Wed, 19 Oct 2022 11:02:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.
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From: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 58625 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58625: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 13:23:00 +0200

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 “apropos >  native-comp-eln-load-path” gives me "Value: ("/Users/konradpodczeck/.emacs.d/eln-cache/" "/Applications…”, but I cannot find, e.g., “latex.eln”, even though “…/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-13.1.4/latex.el” and, similarly, “latex.elc” both exist. In fact, /the folder "Users/konradpodczeck/.emacs.d/eln-cache/“ exists but is and  remains empty.

Konrad



Am 19.10.2022 um 13:01 schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>:
> 
> native-comp-eln-load-path


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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>
Cc: 58625 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58625: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 11:47:35 +0000

Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> writes:

> In fact, /the folder "Users/konradpodczeck/.emacs.d/eln-cache/“ exists
> but is and remains empty.

Did you build --with-native-compilation?
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From: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 58625 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58625: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 14:05:44 +0200

Yes, I did.

> Am 19.10.2022 um 13:47 schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>:
> 
> Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> writes:
> 
>> In fact, /the folder "Users/konradpodczeck/.emacs.d/eln-cache/“ exists
>> but is and remains empty.
> 
> Did you build --with-native-compilation?
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From: Akib Azmain Turja <akib <at> disroot.org>
To: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>
Cc: 58625 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#58625: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 19:57:31 +0600

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Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> writes:

> Yes, I did.
>
>> Am 19.10.2022 um 13:47 schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>:
>> 
>> Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> writes:
>> 
>>> In fact, /the folder "Users/konradpodczeck/.emacs.d/eln-cache/“ exists
>>> but is and remains empty.
>> 
>> Did you build --with-native-compilation?

What does (native-comp-available-p) say?

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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>
Cc: 58625 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58625: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 14:13:25 -0700

Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> writes:

>> Am 19.10.2022 um 13:47 schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>:
>>
>> Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> writes:
>>
>>> In fact, /the folder "Users/konradpodczeck/.emacs.d/eln-cache/“ exists
>>> but is and remains empty.
>>
>> Did you build --with-native-compilation?
>
> Yes, I did.

This may be related to the recently fixed Bug#58637.

Could you retry using the latest master branch?
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From: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 58625 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58625: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 09:17:23 +0200


> Am 20.10.2022 um 23:13 schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>:
> 
> Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> writes:
> 
>>> Am 19.10.2022 um 13:47 schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> writes:
>>> 
>>>> In fact, /the folder "Users/konradpodczeck/.emacs.d/eln-cache/“ exists
>>>> but is and remains empty.
>>> 
>>> Did you build --with-native-compilation?
>> 
>> Yes, I did.
> 
> This may be related to the recently fixed Bug#58637.


Yes, with the latest master branch, everything  is fine. 

One final question: Now, e.g., latex.el., from the folder …/elpa/auctex-13.1.4, compiles into an eln-file, however, deleting afterwards the files latex.el and latex.elc from the folder …/elpa/auctex-13.1.4 results in an auctex with losses functionality. On the contrary, if, e.g., startup.el.gz and startup.elc are deleted from Applications/Emacs/Contents/Resources /lisp, the Emacs.app continues to be full functional. Can it be that such differences in the results of native compilation occur?

Thanks,

Konrad  



> 
> Could you retry using the latest master branch?
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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>
Cc: 58625 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#58625: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2022 00:43:56 -0700

forcemerge 58637 58625
thanks

Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> writes:

>> This may be related to the recently fixed Bug#58637.
>
> Yes, with the latest master branch, everything is fine.

Great, thanks for checking.

> One final question: Now, e.g., latex.el., from the folder
> …/elpa/auctex-13.1.4, compiles into an eln-file, however, deleting
> afterwards the files latex.el and latex.elc from the folder
> …/elpa/auctex-13.1.4 results in an auctex with losses
> functionality. On the contrary, if, e.g., startup.el.gz and
> startup.elc are deleted from Applications/Emacs/Contents/Resources
> /lisp, the Emacs.app continues to be full functional. Can it be that
> such differences in the results of native compilation occur?

No, I think this is because startup.el is preloaded (so we don't need to
re-read that file from disk, it is already in memory when Emacs starts).
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