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27.2; Ido C-f in read-file-name inserts twice the initial name

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From: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.2; Ido C-f in read-file-name inserts twice the initial name
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 11:27:11 +0200

Dear maintainers,

If you enable ido with (setq ido-auto-merge-work-directories-length -1)
and evaluate:

(read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp" nil nil "defaultname.png")

and go at the end of the buffer with C-e (not sure why the cursor is not
there by default), and press C-f to come back to a normal file prompt
(not using ido), then the initial text is written one more time, so the
prompt is now:

/tmp/defaultname.png*defaultname.png

where * is the position of the cursor. I would expect C-f in that case
to just prompt /tmp/defaultname.png.

Thanks!

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Message #10 received at 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 56531 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#56532: 27.2; Ido C-f in read-file-name inserts twice the
 initial name
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 13:07:59 +0200

Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Dear maintainers,
>
> If you enable ido with (setq ido-auto-merge-work-directories-length -1)
> and evaluate:
>
> (read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp" nil nil "defaultname.png")
>
> and go at the end of the buffer with C-e (not sure why the cursor is not
> there by default), and press C-f to come back to a normal file prompt
> (not using ido),

Are there some missing bits in this recipe?  `C-f' after eval-ing that
form just moves point, it doesn't change what's prompted for.

In any case, in Emacs directories are supposed to end with a slash, so
the correct syntax would be:

(read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp/" nil nil "defaultname.png")

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #15 received at 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 56531 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#56532: 27.2; Ido C-f in read-file-name inserts twice the
 initial name
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 16:16:22 +0200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

Thanks for you answer.

Well the procedure is complete: C-f moves the point until you reach the 
end of the message and then it changes the prompt. If you do C-e as I 
explained before C-f, the point should already be at the end of the 
message and therefore it can't move further.

I tried to add a slash, the problem is the same, as demonstrated in the 
attached gif.

On 13/07/2022 13:07, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Dear maintainers,
>>
>> If you enable ido with (setq ido-auto-merge-work-directories-length -1)
>> and evaluate:
>>
>> (read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp" nil nil "defaultname.png")
>>
>> and go at the end of the buffer with C-e (not sure why the cursor is not
>> there by default), and press C-f to come back to a normal file prompt
>> (not using ido),
> Are there some missing bits in this recipe?  `C-f' after eval-ing that
> form just moves point, it doesn't change what's prompted for.
>
> In any case, in Emacs directories are supposed to end with a slash, so
> the correct syntax would be:
>
> (read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp/" nil nil "defaultname.png")
>

[Peek 13-07-2022 16-14.gif (image/gif, attachment)]

Message #18 received at 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 56531 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#56532: 27.2; Ido C-f in read-file-name inserts twice the
 initial name
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 17:00:03 +0200

Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Well the procedure is complete: C-f moves the point until you reach
> the end of the message and then it changes the prompt.

With the recipe, `C-f' just says [End of buffer] -- no prompts are
changed.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #21 received at 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#56532: 27.2;
 Ido C-f in read-file-name inserts twice the initial name
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 20:15:18 +0300

> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 11:27:11 +0200
> From: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
> 
> If you enable ido with (setq ido-auto-merge-work-directories-length -1)
> and evaluate:
> 
> (read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp" nil nil "defaultname.png")
> 
> and go at the end of the buffer with C-e (not sure why the cursor is not
> there by default), and press C-f to come back to a normal file prompt
> (not using ido), then the initial text is written one more time, so the
> prompt is now:
> 
> /tmp/defaultname.png*defaultname.png
> 
> where * is the position of the cursor. I would expect C-f in that case
> to just prompt /tmp/defaultname.png.

Is this in "emacs -Q"?  Because I cannot reproduce the problem: when I
type C-f and get to the end of the file name, Emacs says "[End of
buffer]", and that's all.

Could it be due to some customizations of yours?  I see a lot of
active modes that are not turned on by default.

Message #24 received at 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#56532: 27.2; Ido C-f in read-file-name inserts twice the
 initial name
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 12:02:11 +0200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

I can easily reproduce it in emacs -Q yes by simply evaluating the 
following config:

(setq ido-everywhere t)
(ido-mode)
;; Stop changing directory when openning a file that does not exist!
(setq ido-auto-merge-work-directories-length -1)

(read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp/" nil nil "defaultname.png")

you can find attached a gif with all the procedure and precise keystroke 
I made.

On 13/07/2022 19:15, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 11:27:11 +0200
>> From: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
>>
>> If you enable ido with (setq ido-auto-merge-work-directories-length -1)
>> and evaluate:
>>
>> (read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp" nil nil "defaultname.png")
>>
>> and go at the end of the buffer with C-e (not sure why the cursor is not
>> there by default), and press C-f to come back to a normal file prompt
>> (not using ido), then the initial text is written one more time, so the
>> prompt is now:
>>
>> /tmp/defaultname.png*defaultname.png
>>
>> where * is the position of the cursor. I would expect C-f in that case
>> to just prompt /tmp/defaultname.png.
> Is this in "emacs -Q"?  Because I cannot reproduce the problem: when I
> type C-f and get to the end of the file name, Emacs says "[End of
> buffer]", and that's all.
>
> Could it be due to some customizations of yours?  I see a lot of
> active modes that are not turned on by default.

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Message #27 received at 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#56532: 27.2; Ido C-f in read-file-name inserts twice the
 initial name
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 13:51:36 +0300

> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 12:02:11 +0200
> Cc: 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
> 
> I can easily reproduce it in emacs -Q yes by simply evaluating the 
> following config:
> 
> (setq ido-everywhere t)
> (ido-mode)
> ;; Stop changing directory when openning a file that does not exist!
> (setq ido-auto-merge-work-directories-length -1)
> 
> (read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp/" nil nil "defaultname.png")

It looks like you aren't supposed to do that under Ido.  See
ido-magic-forward-char.

Message #30 received at 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#56532: 27.2; Ido C-f in read-file-name inserts twice the
 initial name
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 20:19:41 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> I can easily reproduce it in emacs -Q yes by simply evaluating the 
>> following config:
>> 
>> (setq ido-everywhere t)
>> (ido-mode)
>> ;; Stop changing directory when openning a file that does not exist!
>> (setq ido-auto-merge-work-directories-length -1)
>> 
>> (read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp/" nil nil "defaultname.png")

Thanks; with that I can reproduce the problem.

> It looks like you aren't supposed to do that under Ido.  See
> ido-magic-forward-char.

It may not be supposed to work, but it'd be logical if it did, I think?
But I'm not that familiar with how ido does fallbacks (it seems to
involve some strange, brittle magic), so I don't know whether it's
possible or not.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #33 received at 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tobias.bora <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#56532: 27.2; Ido C-f in read-file-name inserts twice the
 initial name
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 21:23:09 +0300

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
> Cc: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>,  56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 20:19:41 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> I can easily reproduce it in emacs -Q yes by simply evaluating the 
> >> following config:
> >> 
> >> (setq ido-everywhere t)
> >> (ido-mode)
> >> ;; Stop changing directory when openning a file that does not exist!
> >> (setq ido-auto-merge-work-directories-length -1)
> >> 
> >> (read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp/" nil nil "defaultname.png")
> 
> Thanks; with that I can reproduce the problem.
> 
> > It looks like you aren't supposed to do that under Ido.  See
> > ido-magic-forward-char.
> 
> It may not be supposed to work, but it'd be logical if it did, I think?
> But I'm not that familiar with how ido does fallbacks (it seems to
> involve some strange, brittle magic), so I don't know whether it's
> possible or not.

I think it relies on how the candidates are displayed at that point,
which is quite different from what read-file-name does.  Yes, that's
brittle.

Message #36 received at 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#56532: 27.2; Ido C-f in read-file-name inserts twice the
 initial name
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 22:54:40 +0200

Yes, even if it's not supposed to work it would be cool to make it work 
as the current behavior seems to have not much logic.

Also, I can't find a way to change the folder without changing the file 
name… does Ido provide a way to change the folder without changing the 
file name? I tried to cut with Ctrl-k to paste it later, but it does not 
work, C-k just removes the text but does not copy it.

Thanks!

On 14/07/2022 20:23, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
>> Cc: Tobias Bora <tobias.bora <at> gmail.com>,  56532 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 20:19:41 +0200
>>
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>>
>>>> I can easily reproduce it in emacs -Q yes by simply evaluating the
>>>> following config:
>>>>
>>>> (setq ido-everywhere t)
>>>> (ido-mode)
>>>> ;; Stop changing directory when openning a file that does not exist!
>>>> (setq ido-auto-merge-work-directories-length -1)
>>>>
>>>> (read-file-name  "Picture name:" "/tmp/" nil nil "defaultname.png")
>> Thanks; with that I can reproduce the problem.
>>
>>> It looks like you aren't supposed to do that under Ido.  See
>>> ido-magic-forward-char.
>> It may not be supposed to work, but it'd be logical if it did, I think?
>> But I'm not that familiar with how ido does fallbacks (it seems to
>> involve some strange, brittle magic), so I don't know whether it's
>> possible or not.
> I think it relies on how the candidates are displayed at that point,
> which is quite different from what read-file-name does.  Yes, that's
> brittle.

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