GNU bug report logs - #44909
Hyperlinks gone for first story of two-storied *Help* buffers

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>

Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:48:03 UTC

Severity: minor

Tags: patch

Merged with 8951

Found in version 24.0.50

Fixed in version 29.1

Done: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>

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Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#44909; Package emacs. (Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:48:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org. (Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:48:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Hyperlinks gone for first story of two-storied *Help* buffers
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 03:13:54 +0800
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
Look at this weird *Help* screen,

[so-bad.png (image/png, inline)]
[Message part 3 (text/plain, inline)]

Note the four non-hyperlinked items?

> How did you get that, Jacobson?
> I can't get such a two-storied *Help* buffer with either C-h f nor C-h v.
> Are you taking the wrong prescption drugs?

It's a long story:
$ emacs -Q
 C-h f			;; describe-function
 s			;; self-insert-command
 o			;; self-insert-command
 -			;; self-insert-command
 l			;; self-insert-command
 o			;; self-insert-command
 n			;; self-insert-command
 g			;; self-insert-command
 <return>		;; minibuffer-complete-and-exit
 C-x o			;; other-window
 <tab>			;; forward-button
 <tab>			;; forward-button
 <return>		;; push-button
 C-x 1			;; delete-other-windows
 C-h l			;; view-lossage

Yes, the cursor was on top of
‘global-so-long-mode’
when I did push-button.

Because global-so-long-mode is both a function and a variable, I get the
two-storied *Help* window.

But whoever invented two-storied *Help* windows didn't make sure all the
hyperlinks are hyperlinked.

Sure they are when you do
(describe-function 'global-so-long-mode)
(describe-variable 'global-so-long-mode)
individually. But not when you do them "both at the same time" via the
push-button.

emacs-version "27.1"

Reply sent to Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>:
You have taken responsibility. (Sat, 28 Nov 2020 07:40:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Notification sent to 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>:
bug acknowledged by developer. (Sat, 28 Nov 2020 07:40:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #10 received at 44909-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Cc: 44909-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44909: Hyperlinks gone for first story of two-storied *Help*
 buffers
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 09:39:01 +0200
> From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
>  <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 03:13:54 +0800
> 
> But whoever invented two-storied *Help* windows didn't make sure all the
> hyperlinks are hyperlinked.

They are not hyperlinks, they are names of commands.

Closing.




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bug#44909; Package emacs. (Sat, 28 Nov 2020 07:58:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #13 received at 44909 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: 44909 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 
 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Subject: Re: bug#44909: Hyperlinks gone for first story of two-storied *Help*
 buffers
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 08:56:45 +0100
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> > But whoever invented two-storied *Help* windows didn't make sure all the
> > hyperlinks are hyperlinked.
>
> They are not hyperlinks, they are names of commands.

I think this is similar to the feature request in Bug#8951.




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bug#44909; Package emacs. (Sat, 28 Nov 2020 20:47:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #16 received at 44909 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 8951 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rms <at> gnu.org,
 44909 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44909: Hyperlinks gone for first story of two-storied
 *Help* buffers
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 04:45:51 +0800
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> They are not hyperlinks, they are names of commands.

I see. In
https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?msg=5;filename=so-bad.png;bug=44909;att=1

The first two
Use M-x so-long-commentary for more information.
Use M-x so-long-customize to configure the behaviour.
should continue not to be hyperlinked.

Unlike the second two
Use M-x so-long-commentary for more information.
Use M-x so-long-customize to configure the behaviour.

Wonder what RMS thinks.




Forcibly Merged 8951 44909. Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:25:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#44909; Package emacs. (Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:26:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #21 received at 44909 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>,
 44909 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44909: Hyperlinks gone for first story of two-storied
 *Help* buffers
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 11:25:16 +0100
Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> > But whoever invented two-storied *Help* windows didn't make sure all the
>> > hyperlinks are hyperlinked.
>>
>> They are not hyperlinks, they are names of commands.
>
> I think this is similar to the feature request in Bug#8951.

Yup.  I've now merged them.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sun, 29 Nov 2020 10:55:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Added tag(s) patch. Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 23 Oct 2021 00:47:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug marked as fixed in version 29.1, send any further explanations to 8951 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sun, 24 Oct 2021 14:58:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 22 Nov 2021 12:24:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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