GNU bug report logs - #44248
Indentation of --help and --version

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Package: coreutils;

Reported by: Roland Illig <roland.illig <at> gmx.de>

Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 00:04:02 UTC

Severity: normal

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Message #14 received at 44248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Pádraig Brady <P <at> draigBrady.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>, Roland Illig <roland.illig <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 44248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44248: Indentation of --help and --version
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 14:15:03 +0000
On 27/10/2020 02:19, Paul Eggert wrote:
> One way to attack the problem is (1) use only one-liners for option help, and
> (2) not worry about indentation so much (either in English or in German) as the
> excess indenting doesn't help readability enough to justify the translation
> hassle. To do that, I propose changes like the attached for comm. This will
> cause 'comm --help' output to look like the following, which is good enough and
> which will still work with help2man:
> 
> Usage: comm [OPTION]... FILE1 FILE2
> Compare sorted files FILE1 and FILE2 line by line.
> 
> When FILE1 or FILE2 (not both) is -, read standard input.
> 
> With no options, produce three-column output.  Column one contains
> lines unique to FILE1, column two contains lines unique to FILE2,
> and column three contains lines common to both files.
> 
>     -1  suppress column 1 (lines unique to FILE1)
>     -2  suppress column 2 (lines unique to FILE2)
>     -3  suppress column 3 (lines that appear in both files)
> 
>     --check-order  check that the input is correctly sorted
>     --nocheck-order  do not check that the input is correctly sorted
>     --output-delimiter=STR  separate columns with STR
>     --total  output a summary
>     -z, --zero-terminated  line delimiter is NUL, not newline
>         --help     display this help and exit
>         --version  output version information and exit
> 
> Note, comparisons honor the rules specified by 'LC_COLLATE'.
> 
> Examples:
>     comm -12 file1 file2  Print only lines present in both file1 and file2.
>     comm -3 file1 file2  Print lines in file1 not in file2, and vice versa.

I feel using only one liners for all utils would lose too much information.

I feel less strongly about removing indentation,
though do feel we would lose reability.
Consider `ls --help` for example.
comm --help is already quite unreadable and so less
affected by such changes.

Also a mass change like this could invalidate existing translations,
and cause too much churn.

We did discuss a long time ago that a mass change
to warrant the churn would be to split each
option to a separate string, i.e. a separate translation.
Also that we could take advantage of the mbsalign module
to more dynamically align the option description.


cheers,
Pádraig




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