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From: "Timothy P. M. Johnson" <tpmj <at> MIT.EDU>
To: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 23.1; Printing
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:29:56 -0400

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I try to print the current buffer to my network printer (via an IP address)
using the icon at the top of the window, but receive the following error: 

 

Spooling with options (page headers are not supported)...

direct-print-region-helper: Opening output file: permission denied,
c:/HPDIU_10.38.0.127

 

It seems as though emacs is trying to print to a file with the printer name
rather than the printer itself.   If I change the default printer I get the
same error but with the new IP address.  Is this a bug or an error in my
configuartion? I am new to emacs and any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Sincerely,

Timothy Johnson

 

 

In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002)

 of 2009-07-30 on SOFT-MJASON

Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.0.6002

configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4)'

 

Important settings:

  value of $LC_ALL: nil

  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil

  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil

  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil

  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil

  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil

  value of $LC_TIME: nil

  value of $LANG: ENU

  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil

  locale-coding-system: cp1252

  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

 

Major mode: Fundamental

 

Minor modes in effect:

  tooltip-mode: t

  tool-bar-mode: t

  mouse-wheel-mode: t

  menu-bar-mode: t

  file-name-shadow-mode: t

  global-font-lock-mode: t

  font-lock-mode: t

  blink-cursor-mode: t

  global-auto-composition-mode: t

  auto-composition-mode: t

  auto-encryption-mode: t

  auto-compression-mode: t

  line-number-mode: t

  transient-mark-mode: t

 

Recent input:

<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> 

<mouse-2> <help-echo> <tool-bar> <print-buffer> <tool-bar> 

<print-buffer> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<tool-bar> <print-buffer> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <menu-bar> <help-menu> <send-emacs-bug-report> 

p r <backspace> <backspace> <backspace> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <tool-bar> <print-buffer> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<escape> <escape> <escape> <escape> <help-echo> <tool-bar> 

<print-buffer> <help-echo> <escape> <help-echo> <tool-bar> 

<print-buffer> <help-echo> <escape> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> 

<mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> 

<help-echo> <tool-bar> <print-buffer> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<down-mouse-1> <drag-mouse-1> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> 

<mouse-1> <double-down-mouse-1> <double-mouse-1> <help-echo> 

C-x C-b <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement> 

<drag-mouse-1> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <help-echo> 

<mouse-2> <help-echo> C-x C-b <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-2> <down-mouse-1> 

<mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <tool-bar> <copy> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> 

<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <menu-bar> <help-menu> 

<send-emacs-bug-report>

 

Recent messages:

direct-print-region-helper: Opening output file: permission denied,
c:/HPDIU_10.38.0.127

Spooling with options (page headers are not supported)...

direct-print-region-helper: Opening output file: permission denied,
c:/HPDIU_10.38.0.127

Spooling with options (page headers are not supported)...

direct-print-region-helper: Opening output file: permission denied,
c:/HPDIU_10.38.0.127

call-interactively: Text is read-only

Spooling with options (page headers are not supported)...

direct-print-region-helper: Opening output file: permission denied,
c:/HPDIU_10.38.0.127

Quit

Spooling with options (page headers are not supported)...

direct-print-region-helper: Opening output file: permission denied,
c:/HPDIU_10.38.0.127

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Message #12 received at 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: "Francis Wright" <f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk>
Cc: 3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4275: 23.1; Printing
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 18:14:37 +0100

"Francis Wright" <f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk> writes:

> direct-print-region-helper: Opening output file: permission denied,
> c:/DOT4_001
>
> My printer is an hp LaserJet 1010 connected via USB and the printer
> driver properties show that it is connect to the port DOT4_001. I
> think the problem is that "c:/" has been prepended to the port name.
>
> I see that the same thing happens in Emacs 22.3. (I don't print from
> Emacs very often!)

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)

Do you still see this problem in recent versions of Emacs/Windows?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #17 received at 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Francis Wright <f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk>, 3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#3332: bug#4275: 23.1; Printing
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 19:56:09 +0100

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> "Francis Wright" <f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> direct-print-region-helper: Opening output file: permission denied,
>> c:/DOT4_001
>>
>> My printer is an hp LaserJet 1010 connected via USB and the printer
>> driver properties show that it is connect to the port DOT4_001. I
>> think the problem is that "c:/" has been prepended to the port name.
>>
>> I see that the same thing happens in Emacs 22.3. (I don't print from
>> Emacs very often!)
>
> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
> at the time.)
>
> Do you still see this problem in recent versions of Emacs/Windows?

I see this problem: I did 'M-x view-hello-file RET' and from the menu
bar, I did 'File->Print->Print buffer', said YES when asked to use the
default printer, and this is the backtrace:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (permission-denied "Opening output file" "Permission denied" "c:/WSD-5bc23311-7bc5-46f6-a594-1552b4df353d")
  w32-direct-print-region-helper("WSD-5bc23311-7bc5-46f6-a594-1552b4df353d" 1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> "" nil #<buffer  *temp*> nil ("(page headers are not supported)"))
  w32-direct-print-region-function(1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> "" nil #<buffer  *temp*> nil "(page headers are not supported)")
  apply(w32-direct-print-region-function 1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> "" nil #<buffer  *temp*> nil "(page headers are not supported)")
  lpr-print-region(1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> ("(page headers are not supported)") "HELLO Emacs buffer")
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I have a HP Laserjet on network connected via WSD Port (hence the name
WSD-5bc...).  This is Emacs 29.0.50 (3ca32105d2) on Win10.

Best, Arash

Message #20 received at 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
Cc: f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk, larsi <at> gnus.org, 3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#3332: bug#4275: 23.1; Printing
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 21:19:50 +0200

> From: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 19:56:09 +0100
> Cc: Francis Wright <f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk>, 3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
>  4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
> 
> > "Francis Wright" <f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk> writes:
> >
> >> direct-print-region-helper: Opening output file: permission denied,
> >> c:/DOT4_001
> >>
> >> My printer is an hp LaserJet 1010 connected via USB and the printer
> >> driver properties show that it is connect to the port DOT4_001. I
> >> think the problem is that "c:/" has been prepended to the port name.
> >>
> >> I see that the same thing happens in Emacs 22.3. (I don't print from
> >> Emacs very often!)
> >
> > (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
> > at the time.)
> >
> > Do you still see this problem in recent versions of Emacs/Windows?
> 
> I see this problem: I did 'M-x view-hello-file RET' and from the menu
> bar, I did 'File->Print->Print buffer', said YES when asked to use the
> default printer, and this is the backtrace:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (permission-denied "Opening output file" "Permission denied" "c:/WSD-5bc23311-7bc5-46f6-a594-1552b4df353d")
>   w32-direct-print-region-helper("WSD-5bc23311-7bc5-46f6-a594-1552b4df353d" 1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> "" nil #<buffer  *temp*> nil ("(page headers are not supported)"))
>   w32-direct-print-region-function(1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> "" nil #<buffer  *temp*> nil "(page headers are not supported)")
>   apply(w32-direct-print-region-function 1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> "" nil #<buffer  *temp*> nil "(page headers are not supported)")
>   lpr-print-region(1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> ("(page headers are not supported)") "HELLO Emacs buffer")
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> I have a HP Laserjet on network connected via WSD Port (hence the name
> WSD-5bc...).  This is Emacs 29.0.50 (3ca32105d2) on Win10.

See the node "Windows Printing" in the Emacs manual, which explains
that the default setting of the printer on MS-Windows isn't guaranteed
to work, and provides a few alternative suggestions for setting up the
printer.

I don't think we can do anything with these problems beyond describing
the various tricks of the trade.

Message #23 received at 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk, larsi <at> gnus.org, 3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#3332: bug#4275: 23.1; Printing
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 20:40:03 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> See the node "Windows Printing" in the Emacs manual, which explains
> that the default setting of the printer on MS-Windows isn't guaranteed
> to work, and provides a few alternative suggestions for setting up the
> printer.

I tried that once long time ago and I did that again briefly before I
answered Lars.  None of them worked (which is not a big deal for me).

> I don't think we can do anything with these problems beyond describing
> the various tricks of the trade.

Understood.

Best, Arash

Message #26 received at 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
Cc: f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk, larsi <at> gnus.org, 3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#3332: bug#4275: 23.1; Printing
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 21:50:03 +0200

> From: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: larsi <at> gnus.org,  f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk,  3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
>   4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 20:40:03 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > See the node "Windows Printing" in the Emacs manual, which explains
> > that the default setting of the printer on MS-Windows isn't guaranteed
> > to work, and provides a few alternative suggestions for setting up the
> > printer.
> 
> I tried that once long time ago and I did that again briefly before I
> answered Lars.  None of them worked (which is not a big deal for me).

One solution that works for me on any Windows system is to find a lpr
workalike that knows how to print to the system default printer.
There are several such workalikes floating around.

The "net view" method also works in many cases.

Message #29 received at 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Francis Wright <f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk>
To: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: "3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>,
 "4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: bug#3332: bug#4275: 23.1; Printing
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 12:41:11 +0000

I no longer have access to the printer I referred to in my initial bug report. My current printer is connected using WiFi via the Internet. I tried the recipe described by Arash and got essentially the same result. To be precise, I got this message

w32-direct-print-region-helper: Opening output file: Permission denied, c:/WSD-cdd02b81-88de-4da9-ac0b-52cc3703cc62

I'm running
GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2021-03-26
on Windows 10.

So it's still a problem. Thanks for looking into it again.

Francis

-----Original Message-----
From: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org> 
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2022 6:58 pm
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Francis Wright <f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk>; 3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#3332: bug#4275: 23.1; Printing

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> "Francis Wright" <f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> direct-print-region-helper: Opening output file: permission denied,
>> c:/DOT4_001
>>
>> My printer is an hp LaserJet 1010 connected via USB and the printer 
>> driver properties show that it is connect to the port DOT4_001. I 
>> think the problem is that "c:/" has been prepended to the port name.
>>
>> I see that the same thing happens in Emacs 22.3. (I don't print from 
>> Emacs very often!)
>
> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved 
> at the time.)
>
> Do you still see this problem in recent versions of Emacs/Windows?

I see this problem: I did 'M-x view-hello-file RET' and from the menu bar, I did 'File->Print->Print buffer', said YES when asked to use the default printer, and this is the backtrace:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (permission-denied "Opening output file" "Permission denied" "c:/WSD-5bc23311-7bc5-46f6-a594-1552b4df353d")
  w32-direct-print-region-helper("WSD-5bc23311-7bc5-46f6-a594-1552b4df353d" 1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> "" nil #<buffer  *temp*> nil ("(page headers are not supported)"))
  w32-direct-print-region-function(1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> "" nil #<buffer  *temp*> nil "(page headers are not supported)")
  apply(w32-direct-print-region-function 1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> "" nil #<buffer  *temp*> nil "(page headers are not supported)")
  lpr-print-region(1 #<marker at 5393 in  *spool temp*> ("(page headers are not supported)") "HELLO Emacs buffer") --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I have a HP Laserjet on network connected via WSD Port (hence the name WSD-5bc...).  This is Emacs 29.0.50 (3ca32105d2) on Win10.

Best, Arash

Message #32 received at 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk, Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>, 3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#3332: bug#4275: 23.1; Printing
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 17:50:59 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> See the node "Windows Printing" in the Emacs manual, which explains
> that the default setting of the printer on MS-Windows isn't guaranteed
> to work, and provides a few alternative suggestions for setting up the
> printer.
>
> I don't think we can do anything with these problems beyond describing
> the various tricks of the trade.

Could this command output a message (on Windows) that points the user to
this manual node when you get this error?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #35 received at 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk, arash <at> gnu.org, 3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#3332: bug#4275: 23.1; Printing
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 19:07:51 +0200

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
> Cc: Arash Esbati <arash <at> gnu.org>,  f.j.wright <at> qmul.ac.uk,
>   3332 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  4275 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2022 17:50:59 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > See the node "Windows Printing" in the Emacs manual, which explains
> > that the default setting of the printer on MS-Windows isn't guaranteed
> > to work, and provides a few alternative suggestions for setting up the
> > printer.
> >
> > I don't think we can do anything with these problems beyond describing
> > the various tricks of the trade.
> 
> Could this command output a message (on Windows) that points the user to
> this manual node when you get this error?

Which command? lpr-buffer?

The error comes from very low-level code, but I guess anything's
possible if we want it badly enough.

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