GNU bug report logs - #389
can not send e-mail to bug-gnu-emacs without it being assigned a bug number

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Reported by: Joe Wells <jbw <at> macs.hw.ac.uk>

Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:30:03 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: notabug

Done: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>

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Report forwarded to bug-submit-list <at> lists.donarmstrong.com, Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>:
bug#389; Package emacs. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Joe Wells <jbw <at> macs.hw.ac.uk>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #5 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Joe Wells <jbw <at> macs.hw.ac.uk>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: can not send e-mail to bug-gnu-emacs without it being assigned a bug number
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:23:15 +0100
It is no longer possible to send e-mail to bug-gnu-emacs without it
being assigned a bug number.

It appears that if e-mail to bug-gnu-emacs contains “bug#XYZ” in the
subject, it is added to the bug log for bug number XYZ, while
otherwise a fresh bug number is allocated and the e-mail is added to
the bug log for the new bug report.

It appears that bug-gnu-emacs (a.k.a. the gnu.emacs.bug newsgroup) has
been taken over completely by the bug tracking system.  The
bug-gnu-emacs mailing list can no longer be used for meta-level
discussions about bug handling.

Is this a feature or a bug?

Should it still be possible for bug-gnu-emacs to be used as an
ordinary mailing list (and newsgroup)?

I don't think the new way is necessarily bad, but it seems to have
happened without much community discussion.

Please discuss this.

-- 
Joe


-- 
Heriot-Watt University is a Scottish charity
registered under charity number SC000278.






Information forwarded to bug-submit-list <at> lists.donarmstrong.com, Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>:
bug#389; Package emacs. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #10 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org>
To: Joe Wells <jbw <at> macs.hw.ac.uk>, 389 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#389: can not send e-mail to bug-gnu-emacs without it being
 assigned a bug number
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:44:10 +0100
Joe Wells wrote:
> Should it still be possible for bug-gnu-emacs to be used as an
> ordinary mailing list (and newsgroup)?
>   

It should only be used for discussion of bugs. That has always been its 
purpose.






Information forwarded to bug-submit-list <at> lists.donarmstrong.com, Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>:
bug#389; Package emacs. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to bug-submit-list <at> lists.donarmstrong.com, Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>:
bug#389; Package emacs. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Joe Wells <jbw <at> macs.hw.ac.uk>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #20 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Joe Wells <jbw <at> macs.hw.ac.uk>
To: Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 389 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#389: can not send e-mail to bug-gnu-emacs without it being assigned a bug number
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:29:35 +0100
Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Joe Wells wrote:
>> Should it still be possible for bug-gnu-emacs to be used as an
>> ordinary mailing list (and newsgroup)?
>
> It should only be used for discussion of bugs. That has always been
> its purpose.

What about discussion about the discussion of bugs (meta-level
discussion, like this one)?  Where does that go?

-- 
Joe


-- 
Heriot-Watt University is a Scottish charity
registered under charity number SC000278.






Information forwarded to bug-submit-list <at> lists.donarmstrong.com, Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>:
bug#389; Package emacs. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Joe Wells <jbw <at> macs.hw.ac.uk>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Tags added: notabug Request was from Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:45:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug reassigned from package `emacs' to `emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com'. Request was from Don Armstrong <don <at> donarmstrong.com> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:45:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Forcibly Merged 388 389 391 392. Request was from Don Armstrong <don <at> donarmstrong.com> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:45:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to bug-submit-list <at> lists.donarmstrong.com, Don Armstrong <don <at> donarmstrong.com>:
bug#389; Package emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Don Armstrong <don <at> donarmstrong.com>. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #36 received at 389 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org>
To: Joe Wells <jbw <at> macs.hw.ac.uk>
Cc: 389 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#389: can not send e-mail to bug-gnu-emacs without it being
 assigned a bug number
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:53:47 +0100
Joe Wells wrote:
> Jason Rumney <jasonr <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>   
>> Joe Wells wrote:
>>     
>>> Should it still be possible for bug-gnu-emacs to be used as an
>>> ordinary mailing list (and newsgroup)?
>>>       
>> It should only be used for discussion of bugs. That has always been
>> its purpose.
>>     
>
> What about discussion about the discussion of bugs (meta-level
> discussion, like this one)?  Where does that go?
>   

emacs-devel






Tags removed: moreinfo, notabug Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:15:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Tags added: notabug Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:25:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug closed, send any further explanations to Joe Wells <jbw <at> macs.hw.ac.uk> Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:25:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Severity set to `normal' from `minor' Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:25:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Merged 388 389 391 392. Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:25:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Tags added: notabug Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:25:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Disconnected #389 from all other report(s). Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:35:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <don <at> donarmstrong.com> to internal_control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:24:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug unarchived. Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:23:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug reassigned from package 'emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com' to 'debbugs.gnu.org'. Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:23:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:23:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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