GNU bug report logs - #36454
26.2.90; feature request - Insert char by hex tab completion or C-x 8 RET ffe <TAB>

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: van <at> scratch.space, 36454 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mrsebastianurban <at> gmail.com, larsi <at> gnus.org
Subject: bug#36454: 26.2.90; feature request - Insert char by hex tab completion or C-x 8 RET ffe <TAB>
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:57:55 +0300

> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:38:40 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> Cc: mrsebastianurban <at> gmail.com, larsi <at> gnus.org, van <at> scratch.space,
>         36454 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Completion is a very poor means for discovery and browsing.
> [...]
> 2. I disagree that it is true.  I would suggest/guess
>    that you just don't have sufficient experience with
>    a better completion UI than that offered by `emacs -Q'.
>    Ask users of Ivy or Helm whether they use completion
>    that way.

Since this feature is proposed for core Emacs, we are by definition
talking about "emacs -Q", not about Ivy or Helm.  The latter have
infrastructure on which to build the feature you want without any
changes in core.

> > it can be used for that, but with very low efficiency and user-friendliness.
> 
> That's too big a generalization to be helpful in this
> discussion.

Generalizations are sometimes useful tools for making decisions and
getting one's point across.

> > So we should not judge the need for completion by considering any use
> > cases other than just completion, i.e. finding a specific character or
> > a small group of related characters.
> 
> Need?  How about value and usefulness?

Indeed, I think it would be useless, even harmful.

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