GNU bug report logs - #32756
Customize UI Value Menu Label&Text Description is out of wack

Previous Next

To add a comment to this bug, you must first unarchive it, by sending
a message to control AT debbugs.gnu.org, with unarchive 32756 in the body.
You can then email your comments to 32756 AT debbugs.gnu.org in the normal way.

Toggle the display of automated, internal messages from the tracker.

Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Van L <van <at> scratch.space>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Customize UI Value Menu Label&Text Description is out of wack
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:46:25 +1000

Hello.

The label in the Value Menu should match exactly what is described in the documentation for the following:

1. Xref Prompt For Identifier
2. Dired Use Ls Dired

when using Customize UI.

An ideal user to verify the ability to achieve their goal whilst interacting with this aspect of the UI is to ask for feedback from a working writer, such as, a journalist. (Not me.)

Message #10 received at 32756-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Van L <van <at> scratch.space>
Cc: 32756-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32756: Customize UI Value Menu Label&Text Description is out
 of wack
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:59:36 +0300

> From: Van L <van <at> scratch.space>
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:46:25 +1000
> 
> Hello.
> 
> The label in the Value Menu should match exactly what is described in the documentation for the following:
> 
> 1. Xref Prompt For Identifier
> 2. Dired Use Ls Dired
> 
> when using Customize UI.

"Match exactly" is not a worthy goal, IMO, (even if possible, which I
doubt), because the menu items cannot be as long as the doc string,
and the doc string is typically long, as it should include enough
details to explain itself completely.  However, I made changes (on the
emacs-26 branch) that I believe make the menus for those two variables
match their doc strings much closer.

> An ideal user to verify the ability to achieve their goal whilst interacting with this aspect of the UI is to ask for feedback from a working writer, such as, a journalist. (Not me.)

I don't think we have such users on board, but if there are concrete
practical suggestions for further improvement, they are welcome.

Thanks.

Message #13 received at 32756-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Van L <van <at> scratch.space>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 32756-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#32756: Customize UI Value Menu Label&Text Description is out
 of wack
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:47:46 +1000

> I don't think we have such users on board, but if there are concrete
> practical suggestions for further improvement, they are welcome.

What might think a person with an arts, humanities background and is a Lisper knowing Emacs? can the intangible aesthetics of the Customize UI improve with input from that user base.

Previous Next

GNU bug tracking system
Copyright (C) 1999 Darren O. Benham, 1997,2003 nCipher Corporation Ltd, 1994-97 Ian Jackson.