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25.2; help-echo should show in echo area when point is in text

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From: Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.2; help-echo should show in echo area when point is in text
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 08:10:19 -0700

Make sure you have font-lock enabled, open a new .el file and insert:

'(("^[ \t]*\\(?:\\* .*\\)?\\(([^\n)]*,\\s-*\\)$"
   (1 '(face font-lock-warning-face
	     help-echo "Continue function lists with \")\\n(\".") t))

(This snippet comes from log-edit.el)

For me the final "t))" is given font-lock-warning-face.
It also has this text property:

  help-echo            "Hidden behind deeper element; move to another line?"

... which is very useful information!

However, the only way I can see this (other than describe-char) is to
hover over the highlighted text with the mouse.

I think it would be handier if this text were displayed somewhere when
point was in this area.  Some other error-displaying programs, like
flycheck (I didn't look at flymake) will do this already; I just think
it should be standard across Emacs.

Tom




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Message #8 received at 26012 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
To: Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>, 26012 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#26012: 25.2; help-echo should show in echo area when point is
 in text
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 18:04:08 +0200

On 07.03.2017 17:10, Tom Tromey wrote:
> For me the final "t))" is given font-lock-warning-face.
> It also has this text property:
> 
>    help-echo            "Hidden behind deeper element; move to another line?"
> 
> ... which is very useful information!
> 
> However, the only way I can see this (other than describe-char) is to
> hover over the highlighted text with the mouse.

Apparently we're supposed to customize help-at-pt-display-when-idle. But 
some modes use the newly added cursor-sensor-functions, forgoing the 
idle timer.

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