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24.5; (elisp)`Extended Menu Items', :filter warning

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: larsi <at> gnus.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca, 24237-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24237: 24.5; (elisp)`Extended Menu Items', :filter warning
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 21:17:31 +0200

> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 10:54:06 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> Cc: larsi <at> gnus.org, 24237 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
> 
> > > > >  "use of a `menu-item' construct with a :filter
> > > > >   to create a conditional _keyboard_ key binding.
> > > > >   In such a case, the `menu-item' construct is not
> > > > >   a real menu item - it is not placed on any menu."
> > 
> > If this is never placed on the menu bar or on any pop-down menu, then
> > what the manual says is not relevant, because redisplay only considers
> > the menus that need to be displayed.
> 
> 1. The manual's description of :filter is entirely
> relevant to this use case - _except_ for that last
> paragraph, which apparently erroneously assumes that
> the only possible use of an extended menu item with
> :filter is in a menu.

Since that last paragraph explicitly talks about displaying or acting
on menus, I see no reason to change anything there.

>    a. You can bind an extended menu item that uses
>       :filter to a keyboard key, to give it a
>       dynamic binding (explaining what that means
>       with an example).

IMO this is a kludge that we don't need to document.

> More generally, `menu-item' is not just about menus
> and menu items.  This is not obvious.  And in
> particular, it's not obvious that you can make good
> use of :filter with a keyboard key.

menu-item is about menus, as its name says.  That it can be used for
other purposes is an implementation detail.

And with that, I'm closing this bug report.

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