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25.0.94; unitialized package specific menus

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From: Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.0.94; unitialized package specific menus
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 22:33:55 +0900 (JST)

The menus especific to one package, e.g. dired, are not
always fully initialized after loading the library:
some menus may show _anything_ after click on them.


emacs -Q
C-x C-f RET
;;; click mouse left button on Menu "Regexp"
;;  The menu doesn't appear correctly.
;;  Same happen with menus: "Mark", "Immediate" or "Subdir"
::  Menu "Operate" shows the wrong information.
;;
;;; Now click mouse left button on Menu "Tools".
;;  The previous menus are refreshed and show the correct information.


;;; Now try similar test but starting Emacs with:
emacs -Q ~
C-x C-f RET
;;; This time, all menus are initialized and show the right info.

;;; This is a general issue not something restricted to dired.
;; For instance, compare the response of menu "Mark" in I), II) and III):

I)
./emacs -Q
M-x ibuffer RET
;; "View" and "Mark" don't respond as expected; "Operate" looks wrong too.

II) ./emacs -Q --eval "(require 'ibuffer)"
M-x ibuffer RET
;; Same as I)

III) ./emacs -Q --eval '(ibuffer)'
;; All menus looks good.



In GNU Emacs 25.0.94.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.20.4)
Repository revision: 9c28e70b4b4b1887030e41103b5f6dd8304585e6

Message #8 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com>
To: 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com>
Subject: (25.0.94; Menu corrupted after being used
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 23:57:52 +0900 (JST)

A menu initialized correctly may become corrupted after
being used:

emacs -Q ~
;;; Click left mouse on menu "Regexp"
;; choose mark %g and match something, for instance
tmp RET
;;; Click again on menu "Regexp"
;; Now menu "Regexp" menu is corrupted!


In GNU Emacs 25.0.94.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.20.4)
 of 2016-06-01 built on calancha-pc
Repository revision: 9c28e70b4b4b1887030e41103b5f6dd8304585e6
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11803000
System Description:	Debian GNU/Linux testing (stretch)

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS
NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11

Message #11 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23672: (25.0.94; Menu corrupted after being used
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:40:17 -0400

I can't reproduce these problems (this is a case where a screenshot
might be helpful). I would guess that this is due to Gtk 3.20, which
seems to cause various issues. I think this is something that it is
important to try and address before 25.1.

Tino Calancha wrote:

> In GNU Emacs 25.0.94.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.20.4)
>  of 2016-06-01 built on calancha-pc

Message #18 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
To: Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: 25.0.94; unitialized package specific menus
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:02:40 -0700

I am not observing the problem on Fedora 23 x86-64. My Emacs 
configuration (see below) is similar to yours, except that Fedora 23 
uses GTK+ 3.18.9 rather than your GTK+ 3.20.4. Also, I am not running 
under Wayland and I am using the Gnome desktop manager; this may be 
relevant.

Do you observe a similar problem with Emacs 24.5 when built in your GTK+ 
3.20.4 environment?

Is the problem related to which theme you select?

In GNU Emacs 25.0.94.7 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)
 of 2016-06-01 built on penguin.cs.ucla.edu
Repository revision: 9c28e70b4b4b1887030e41103b5f6dd8304585e6
Windowing system distributor 'Fedora Project', version 11.0.11803000
Configured using:
 'configure --enable-gcc-warnings'

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS
NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Message #21 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com>, rgm <at> gnu.org, 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 25.0.94; unitialized package specific menus
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 13:54:55 +0900 (JST)

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Paul Eggert wrote:

> Do you observe a similar problem with Emacs 24.5 when built in your GTK+ 
> 3.20.4 environment?
Yes i do.
I also observe same issue with older gtk+ version (see [+++] below).

> Is the problem related to which theme you select?
I keep the default theme.


[+++]
++ I have built emacs-24.5 on Debian 8.4 (which ships gtk+ 3.14)
   under several desktop environments.

++ I observe the problem with: gnome and cinnamon.
   (See the attached snapshots)

++ I tried following settings:

   * emacs-24.5
   * Debian 8.4 (jessie, latest stable)
   * gtk+: 3.14.5
   * desktop:
     I) kde: OK
     II) xfce: OK
     III) mate: OK
     IV) gnome: BAD
     V) cinnamon: BAD



In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
 of 2016-06-02 on debian
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11604000
System Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 8.4 (jessie)

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Dired by name

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
Marking matching files...
0 matching files marked.

Load-path shadows:
None found.

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custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process
dbusbind gfilenotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting
font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 78189 4233)
 (symbols 48 17877 0)
 (miscs 40 43 138)
 (strings 32 10320 4126)
 (string-bytes 1 283717)
 (vectors 16 9282)
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 (buffers 960 12)
 (heap 1024 52102 971))

[dired_regexp_menu-emacs-25-debian_testing-gnome-gtk_3-20-4.png (image/png, attachment)]

[ibuffer_operate_menu-emacs-25-debian_testing-gnome-gtk_3-20-4.png (image/png, attachment)]

[dired_immediate_menu-emacs-24.5-debian_8.4-cinnamon-gtk_3.14.5.png (image/png, attachment)]

[ibuffer_operate_menu_emacs-24.5-debian_8.4-cinnamon-gtk_3.14.5.png (image/png, attachment)]

[dired_mark_menu_emacs-24-5-debian_8.4-gnome-gtk_3-14-5.png (image/png, attachment)]

Message #24 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
To: Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com>
Cc: rgm <at> gnu.org, 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 25.0.94; unitialized package specific menus
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 23:49:38 -0700

>> Do you observe a similar problem with Emacs 24.5 when built in your GTK+
>> 3.20.4 environment?
> Yes i do.

OK, so this is not a regression in Emacs then. So it's not clear that this bug 
should block the emacs-25 release.


> [+++]
> ++ I have built emacs-24.5 on Debian 8.4 (which ships gtk+ 3.14)
>     under several desktop environments.
>
> ++ I observe the problem with: gnome and cinnamon.
>     (See the attached snapshots)

Ah, so the bug is not introduced by GTK+ 3.20 either.

We need someone versed in GTK+ (i.e., not me) to debug this sort of thing. If we 
can't find anybody, perhaps we should consider dropping GTK+ support in Emacs, 
or at least not making GTK+ the default.

Message #27 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: f92capac <at> gmail.com, 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23672: 25.0.94; unitialized package specific menus
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 11:39:06 +0300

> From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 15:02:40 -0700
> Cc: 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I am not observing the problem on Fedora 23 x86-64.

And I'm not observing it on Windows.

Message #30 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: f92capac <at> gmail.com, 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23672: (25.0.94; Menu corrupted after being used
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 11:50:32 +0300

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:40:17 -0400
> Cc: 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I can't reproduce these problems

Neither can I.

Message #33 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: bug#23672: 25.0.94; unitialized package specific menus
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 19:16:27 -0400

Tino Calancha wrote:

> ++ I have built emacs-24.5 on Debian 8.4 (which ships gtk+ 3.14)
>    under several desktop environments.
>
> ++ I observe the problem with: gnome and cinnamon.
>    (See the attached snapshots)
>
> ++ I tried following settings:
>
>    * emacs-24.5
>    * Debian 8.4 (jessie, latest stable)
>    * gtk+: 3.14.5
>    * desktop:
>      I) kde: OK
>      II) xfce: OK
>      III) mate: OK
>      IV) gnome: BAD
>      V) cinnamon: BAD

It seems weird that:

i) this varies between desktop environments (why would that be?)
ii) no-one has seen this before now

Does it also happen with the "emacs" package shipped by Debian, or only
with one you compile yourself?

Message #42 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com>, 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: bug#23672: 25.0.94; unitialized package specific menus
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:38:22 +0900 (JST)

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On Mon, 6 Jun 2016, Glenn Morris wrote:

> Does it also happen with the "emacs" package shipped by Debian, or only
> with one you compile yourself?

Yes, it does.
Debian ships Emacs version 24.4.1: I observe the same problem (***).

To reproduce the issue, please try as follows:

I) Boot a live image of debian 8.4.0 with desktop gnome or cinnamon;
   for example, i use:

ISO: debian-live-8.4.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso
MD5SUM: 2e9cb6b2deb717d4c9d8a1d252e8677d

II) Install precompiled emacs24:

    sudo su
    apt-get update && apt-get install emacs -y

III) Start emacs session; call ibuffer and check one of the menus:
Operate, View or Mark:

     emacs -Q
     M-x ibuffer RET
     ;; left mouse button on 'Operate' menu


(***) I have also look on ubuntu-16.04: This is OK.

[ibuffer_mark_menu_emacs-24.4.1-debian_8.4-gnome-gtk_3.14.5.png (image/png, attachment)]

[ibuffer_operate_menu_emacs-24.4.1-debian_8.4-cinnamon-gtk_3.14.5.png (image/png, attachment)]

Message #45 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha <at> gmail.com>
To: 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: rgm <at> gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>,
 tino.calancha <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#23672: 25.0.94; unitialized package specific menus
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:48:16 +0900

Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com> writes:

> The menus especific to one package, e.g. dired, are not
> always fully initialized after loading the library:
> some menus may show _anything_ after click on them.
>
>
> emacs -Q
> C-x C-f RET
> ;;; click mouse left button on Menu "Regexp"
> ;;  The menu doesn't appear correctly.
> ;;  Same happen with menus: "Mark", "Immediate" or "Subdir"
> ::  Menu "Operate" shows the wrong information.
> ;;
> ;;; Now click mouse left button on Menu "Tools".
> ;;  The previous menus are refreshed and show the correct information.

I found one recipe to reproduce the issue:
*  `M-x' just followed by `C-g'.

See the video:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5gcbi5fc3xmqpow/emacs_bug23672.mkv?dl=0

;; the version of emacs-24 showed in the video:
In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.11)
 of 2017-09-12 on hullmann, modified by Debian
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11902000
System Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 9.4 (stretch)

;; the version of master branch showed in the video:
In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 13, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.11)
 of 2018-07-10 built on calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp
Repository revision: cc74539a19229ee7e70055b00e8334bd6abc0841
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11902000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)

Message #48 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu, rgm <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23672: 25.0.94; unitialized package specific menus
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:23:54 +0300

> From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha <at> gmail.com>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, rgm <at> gnu.org, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>, tino.calancha <at> gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:48:16 +0900
> 
> Tino Calancha <f92capac <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > The menus especific to one package, e.g. dired, are not
> > always fully initialized after loading the library:
> > some menus may show _anything_ after click on them.
> >
> >
> > emacs -Q
> > C-x C-f RET
> > ;;; click mouse left button on Menu "Regexp"
> > ;;  The menu doesn't appear correctly.
> > ;;  Same happen with menus: "Mark", "Immediate" or "Subdir"
> > ::  Menu "Operate" shows the wrong information.
> > ;;
> > ;;; Now click mouse left button on Menu "Tools".
> > ;;  The previous menus are refreshed and show the correct information.
> 
> I found one recipe to reproduce the issue:
> *  `M-x' just followed by `C-g'.

And after C-g, do you type "C-x C-f RET" and click "Regexp" on the
menu bar?  Or do you do something else?

> See the video:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5gcbi5fc3xmqpow/emacs_bug23672.mkv?dl=0

Sorry, I cannot view MKV files here, so can you either upload a more
widespread format or describe in more details what is going on?

I also wonder whether this is GTK-specific.  Could you try reproducing
this in "emacs -Q -nw"?  If your Emacs is built without GPM support,
you should try F10 instead of a mouse click.

Thanks.

Message #51 received at 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 23672 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu, rgm <at> gnu.org,
 Tino Calancha <tino.calancha <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#23672: 25.0.94; unitialized package specific menus
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 23:23:18 +0900 (JST)

On Fri, 20 Jul 2018, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> And after C-g, do you type "C-x C-f RET" and click "Regexp" on the
> menu bar?  Or do you do something else?
No, that's old instructions.  I just:
1.  visit a Dired buffer
2. M-x
3. C-g
4. Click 'Regexp' menu ; nothing show up

> Sorry, I cannot view MKV files here, so can you either upload a more
> widespread format or describe in more details what is going on?
I converted to mp4:
The MPAA has rated as G.  Enjoy the movie (don't forget your popcorn!):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ot66n0hxs9msbrx/emacs_bug23672.mp4?dl=0


> I also wonder whether this is GTK-specific.  Could you try reproducing
> this in "emacs -Q -nw"?  If your Emacs is built without GPM support,
> you should try F10 instead of a mouse click.
Yeah, it seems GTK-specific; following your suggestion I cannot reproduce 
the issue.

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