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25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!

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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:50:42 -0800 (PST)

Line 31 of node `Language Environments (and another line is almost as
long):

     Chinese-GBK, Croatian, Cyrillic-ALT, Cyrillic-ISO, Cyrillic-KOI8, Czech, Devanagari, Dutch, English, Esperanto, Ethiopic, French, Georgian, German, Greek, Gujarati, Hebrew, IPA, Italian, Japanese, Kannada, Khmer, Korean, Lao, Latin-1,


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In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
 of 2014-10-20 on LEG570
Bzr revision: 118168 rgm <at> gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
 `configure --enable-checking=yes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=-DGLYPH_DEBUG=1'

Message #8 received at 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 07:39:27 -0800

I do not observe this problem on Fedora 21 x86-64.  Lines 31-34 are:

     Cyrillic-ALT, Cyrillic-ISO, Cyrillic-KOI8, Czech, Devanagari,
     Dutch, English, Esperanto, Ethiopic, French, Georgian, German,
     Greek, Gujarati, Hebrew, IPA, Italian, Japanese, Kannada, Khmer,
     Korean, Lao, Latin-1, Latin-2, Latin-3, Latin-4, Latin-5, Latin-6,

which look fine.

It could be a 'makeinfo' or platform issue.  I'm using makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 
5.2, as shipped with Fedora.  Here's how the .info file was built:

$ cd doc/emacs
$ rm ../../info/emacs.info
$ make V=1 ../../info/emacs.info
makeinfo --force --enable-encoding -I . --no-split -o ../../info/emacs.info 
emacs.texi

Message #11 received at 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 07:57:36 -0800 (PST)

> It could be a 'makeinfo' or platform issue.  I'm using makeinfo (GNU
> texinfo) 5.2, as shipped with Fedora.  Here's how the .info file was built:

I'm using the MS Windows binary I reported the problem for.

Your reply indicates that this might be a build or platform-dependent
bug, which is useful info.

Message #14 received at 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#19697: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:14:36 -0800 (PST)

> > It could be a 'makeinfo' or platform issue.  I'm using makeinfo (GNU
> > texinfo) 5.2, as shipped with Fedora.  Here's how the .info file was
> > built:
> 
> I'm using the MS Windows binary I reported the problem for.
> 
> Your reply indicates that this might be a build or platform-dependent
> bug, which is useful info.

It might also be a problem that has already been fixed.  The build
I reported about is from October 2014.

Message #17 received at 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams <at> oracle.com
Subject: Re: bug#19697: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 19:32:45 +0200

> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 07:39:27 -0800
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
> Cc: 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I do not observe this problem on Fedora 21 x86-64.  Lines 31-34 are:
> 
>       Cyrillic-ALT, Cyrillic-ISO, Cyrillic-KOI8, Czech, Devanagari,
>       Dutch, English, Esperanto, Ethiopic, French, Georgian, German,
>       Greek, Gujarati, Hebrew, IPA, Italian, Japanese, Kannada, Khmer,
>       Korean, Lao, Latin-1, Latin-2, Latin-3, Latin-4, Latin-5, Latin-6,
> 
> which look fine.
> 
> It could be a 'makeinfo' or platform issue.  I'm using makeinfo (GNU texinfo) 
> 5.2, as shipped with Fedora.

This is indeed a bug in makeinfo 4.x which doesn't exist in 5.x.

IOW, not an Emacs problem.

Message #20 received at 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu, drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19697: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 19:55:30 +0200

> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:14:36 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> Cc: 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > > It could be a 'makeinfo' or platform issue.  I'm using makeinfo (GNU
> > > texinfo) 5.2, as shipped with Fedora.  Here's how the .info file was
> > > built:
> > 
> > I'm using the MS Windows binary I reported the problem for.
> > 
> > Your reply indicates that this might be a build or platform-dependent
> > bug, which is useful info.
> 
> It might also be a problem that has already been fixed.

No, it wasn't; there's nothing to fix.  The Texinfo sources are OK as
they are.

Message #23 received at 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams <at> oracle.com
Subject: RE: bug#19697: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:58:42 -0800 (PST)

> This is indeed a bug in makeinfo 4.x which doesn't exist in 5.x.
> 
> IOW, not an Emacs problem.

I see.  I thought that Emacs was responsible for, or able to take
care of, line lengths.  Anyway, OK by me if you close this as not
an Emacs bug.

Message #26 received at 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu, drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19697: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:12:45 +0200

> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:58:42 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> Cc: drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I see.  I thought that Emacs was responsible for, or able to take
> care of, line lengths.

The line length in the Texinfo sources is just fine.  It's just that
makeinfo renders this particular place incorrectly.

> Anyway, OK by me if you close this as not an Emacs bug.

If there's a rainy day soon, I might try something to work around the
makeinfo bug.

Message #29 received at 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu, Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>,
 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19697: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:09:29 +0100

I thought that @refill would help, but it didn't, unfortunately.

Andreas.

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Message #34 received at 19697-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 19697-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19697: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:42:08 -0800

On 01/27/2015 09:58 AM, Drew Adams wrote:
> OK by me if you close this as not
> an Emacs bug.

Thanks, done.  Eventually everybody will be using newer Texinfo so the 
bug will fix itself in time anyway....

Message #37 received at 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu, drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19697: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:53:42 +0200

> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:12:45 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu, 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:58:42 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> > Cc: drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > I see.  I thought that Emacs was responsible for, or able to take
> > care of, line lengths.
> 
> The line length in the Texinfo sources is just fine.  It's just that
> makeinfo renders this particular place incorrectly.
> 
> > Anyway, OK by me if you close this as not an Emacs bug.
> 
> If there's a rainy day soon, I might try something to work around the
> makeinfo bug.

I found a way to kludge around the bug in Texinfo, and committed the
result to the emacs-24 branch.

Message #40 received at 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu, 19697 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#19697: 25.0.50; Emacs manual line is 239 chars wide!
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:59:44 -0800 (PST)

> I found a way to kludge around the bug in Texinfo, and committed the
> result to the emacs-24 branch.

Excellent.  Thx.

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