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24.3; Weird behavior with dead chars

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From: georgesleyetidoux <at> gmail.com
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3; Weird behavior with dead chars
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:33:17 +0200

Hi,
I encounter an odd behavior using emacs under Linux. When I type a dead
key like ~ (dead-tilde) or ` (dead-grave) I get the error "<dead-tilde
is undefined>" (where dead-tilde is the name of the dead chars).

What is really weird is that if I open the keybinding help (C-h b) I can
then type everything correctly until I exit the current session.

I tried to launch emacs with -q parameter in case the problem was from
my personnal configuration but the problem persist.

I am using the bépo (dvorak for french) keyboard layout [0] but I have
the same error if I switch to the swiss-french layout.

[0] http://bepo.fr

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In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.2)
 of 2013-08-07 on -mnt-storage-buildroots-staging-x86_64-eric
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11402000
Configured using:
 `configure '--prefix=/usr' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib'
 '--localstatedir=/var' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk3' '--with-xft'
 'CFLAGS=-march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector
 --param=ssp-buffer-size=4'
 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro'
 'CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_MONETARY: fr_CH.utf8
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: fr_CH.utf8
  value of $LC_TIME: fr_CH.utf8
  value of $LANG: fr_CH.utf8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
M-x r e p o <tab> r t <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
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Message #8 received at 15135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: georgesleyetidoux <at> gmail.com
Cc: 15135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15135: 24.3; Weird behavior with dead chars
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:05:22 -0400

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        [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example.

    I encounter an odd behavior using emacs under Linux.

Don't you mean, "under GNU/Linux"?

Thanks for reporting the bug.

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Message #11 received at 15135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: georgesleyetidoux <at> gmail.com
Cc: 15135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15135: 24.3; Weird behavior with dead chars
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 01:57:58 -0400

> I encounter an odd behavior using emacs under Linux. When I type a dead
> key like ~ (dead-tilde) or ` (dead-grave) I get the error "<dead-tilde
> is undefined>" (where dead-tilde is the name of the dead chars).

We've had various reports of such problems, in the past.
Yours sounds like it's related to http://debbugs.gnu.org/14044 can you
look at this thread and see if it might help you track down the source
of the problem?

>   value of $LANG: fr_CH.utf8
>   value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus

It sounds like a bad interaction with ibus.
Does someone know what might be going on with ibus?


        Stefan

Message #14 received at 15135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Samuel El-Borai <georgesleyetidoux <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 15135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15135: 24.3; Weird behavior with dead chars
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:52:51 +0200

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Thanks to reply.

Disabling ibus did the trick.
Before that I tried to change the $LANG variable like the emacs wiki
recommend[0] but without success.

Just in case, I also tried to run `emacs -nw' and it works correctly even
if I enable the ibus support in sakura[1].

I will for the moment remove ibus from my system as I don't need it.


[0] "Another solution is to change the language locale suffix to large
letters, e.g., from LANG=nb_NO.utf8 to LANG=nb_NO.UTF-8."
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DeadKeys
[1] http://www.pleyades.net/david/projects/sakura


2013/8/20 Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>

> > I encounter an odd behavior using emacs under Linux. When I type a dead
> > key like ~ (dead-tilde) or ` (dead-grave) I get the error "<dead-tilde
> > is undefined>" (where dead-tilde is the name of the dead chars).
>
> We've had various reports of such problems, in the past.
> Yours sounds like it's related to http://debbugs.gnu.org/14044 can you
> look at this thread and see if it might help you track down the source
> of the problem?
>
> >   value of $LANG: fr_CH.utf8
> >   value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
>
> It sounds like a bad interaction with ibus.
> Does someone know what might be going on with ibus?
>
>
>         Stefan
>

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Message #17 received at 15135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Samuel El-Borai <georgesleyetidoux <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 15135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#15135: 24.3; Weird behavior with dead chars
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:08:53 -0400

> Disabling ibus did the trick.

Hmm... we really need to figure out what's up with that.
Is anyone here remotely familiar with ibus?


        Stefan

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