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24.3; Odd vertical height of some glyphs in certain fonts

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From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3; Odd vertical height of some glyphs in certain fonts
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:15:40 +0100

If I set variable-pitch-face to Droid Serif, the right arrow → is much
taller than most other glyphs, effectively forcing extra space after
lines containing it. In DejaVu Serif, this does not happen.

This effect is visible with several other fonts as well: with Calibri,
it does not happen, whereas with Cambria it does, as well as with
Verdana, Ubuntu and Georgia.

In LibreOffice and GEdit this problem does not occur.


In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.0)
 of 2013-04-14 on marid, modified by Debian
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Message #8 received at 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Kenichi Handa <handa <at> gnu.org>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Cc: 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14220: 24.3;
	Odd vertical height of some glyphs in certain fonts
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:45:01 +0900

In article <87obddd13n.fsf <at> sc3d.org>, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> writes:

> If I set variable-pitch-face to Droid Serif, the right arrow → is much
> taller than most other glyphs, effectively forcing extra space after
> lines containing it. In DejaVu Serif, this does not happen.

Are you sure that your Emacs is using the Droid Serif font
for "→"?  I've just installed the droid-ttf package
(ubuntu), but the installed Droid Sefif font:

  /usr/share/fonts/truetype/droid/DroidSerif-Regular.ttf

does not contain a glyph for → (U+2192), so Emacs uses some
other automatically found font for that character.  Please
check which font is used for → in your Emacs by putting
cursor on that character and type C-u C-x =.  If you do find
that your Emacs is using the Droid Serif font, could you
please send me that font?

> In LibreOffice and GEdit this problem does not occur.

There's a possibility that they find a better alternative
font than what Emacs finds.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa <at> gnu.org

Message #11 received at 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14220: 24.3;
	Odd vertical height of some glyphs in certain fonts
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:14:05 +0100

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On 17 April 2013 12:45, Kenichi Handa <handa <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> In article <87obddd13n.fsf <at> sc3d.org>, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> writes:
>
> > If I set variable-pitch-face to Droid Serif, the right arrow → is much
> > taller than most other glyphs, effectively forcing extra space after
> > lines containing it. In DejaVu Serif, this does not happen.
> Please
> check which font is used for → in your Emacs by putting
> cursor on that character and type C-u C-x =.  If you do find
> that your Emacs is using the Droid Serif font, could you
> please send me that font?
>

The font being used is:

    xft:-unknown-Asana Math-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1
(#x1D5)

The glyph is shown with the correct baseline, but a large descender space
(the entire glyph appears to sit above the baseline). Normally, Emacs only
makes the line taller when there's a glyph which actually needs the space.

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Message #14 received at 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14220: 24.3;
	Odd vertical height of some glyphs in certain fonts
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:21:48 +0100

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On 17 April 2013 15:14, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org> wrote:

> On 17 April 2013 12:45, Kenichi Handa <handa <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> In article <87obddd13n.fsf <at> sc3d.org>, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
>> writes:
>>
>> > If I set variable-pitch-face to Droid Serif, the right arrow → is much
>> > taller than most other glyphs, effectively forcing extra space after
>> > lines containing it. In DejaVu Serif, this does not happen.
>> Please
>> check which font is used for → in your Emacs by putting
>> cursor on that character and type C-u C-x =.  If you do find
>> that your Emacs is using the Droid Serif font, could you
>> please send me that font?
>>
>
> The font being used is:
>
>     xft:-unknown-Asana Math-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1
> (#x1D5)
>
> The glyph is shown with the correct baseline, but a large descender space
> (the entire glyph appears to sit above the baseline). Normally, Emacs only
> makes the line taller when there's a glyph which actually needs the space.
>

Ping?

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Message #17 received at 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho <at> gmail.com>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Cc: Kenichi Handa <handa <at> gnu.org>, 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#14220: 24.3;
 Odd vertical height of some glyphs in certain fonts
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:59:17 +0200

Hello,

This bug is still reproducible in 24.5 with Deja Vu Sans Mono.  All
Unicode chars with "MATH DELTA" in them, for instance #x1d7ad, are
padded with vertical space to roughly x7 the usual height.

regards,
Oleh

Message #20 received at 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Kenichi Handa <handa <at> gnu.org>, 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Subject: Re: bug#14220: 24.3; Odd vertical height of some glyphs in certain
 fonts
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:54:51 +0100

Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho <at> gmail.com> writes:

> This bug is still reproducible in 24.5 with Deja Vu Sans Mono.  All
> Unicode chars with "MATH DELTA" in them, for instance #x1d7ad, are
> padded with vertical space to roughly x7 the usual height.

I tried this on Debian with Emacs 27:

(insert #x1d7ad)
=> 𝞭

I get this font, though:

    xfthb:-PfEd-Unifont Upper-normal-normal-normal-*-25-*-*-*-d-0-iso10646-1 (#x1BD6)

Are you still seeing these font glitches?

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Message #25 received at 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Kenichi Handa <handa <at> gnu.org>, 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Subject: Re: bug#14220: 24.3;
 Odd vertical height of some glyphs in certain fonts
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 17:42:24 +0100

Hi Lars,

> Are you still seeing these font glitches?

Not reproducible any more on 26.3 with Deja Vu Sans Mono.

regards,
Oleh

Message #28 received at 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ohwoeowho <at> gmail.com, rrt <at> sc3d.org
Subject: Re: bug#14220: 24.3;
 Odd vertical height of some glyphs in certain fonts
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 19:09:13 +0200

> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:54:51 +0100
> Cc: 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
> 
> Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > This bug is still reproducible in 24.5 with Deja Vu Sans Mono.  All
> > Unicode chars with "MATH DELTA" in them, for instance #x1d7ad, are
> > padded with vertical space to roughly x7 the usual height.
> 
> I tried this on Debian with Emacs 27:
> 
> (insert #x1d7ad)
> => 𝞭
> 
> I get this font, though:
> 
>     xfthb:-PfEd-Unifont Upper-normal-normal-normal-*-25-*-*-*-d-0-iso10646-1 (#x1BD6)
> 
> Are you still seeing these font glitches?

I believe this was fixed as part of bug#20628.

Message #31 received at 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 14220 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, ohwoeowho <at> gmail.com, rrt <at> sc3d.org
Subject: Re: bug#14220: 24.3; Odd vertical height of some glyphs in certain
 fonts
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 18:15:33 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> I believe this was fixed as part of bug#20628.

OK; closing.

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