GNU bug report logs - #1305
All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead

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From: Gregory Heytings <gregory <at> heytings.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Cc: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, 1305 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Michael Welsh Duggan <mwd <at> md5i.com>, Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>,
 jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com, Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>,
 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Subject: Re: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell
 instead
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 07:09:45 +0000

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>
> Fair enough. Still, it's more "proven" that yours, so to speak.
>

I don't know what you mean by "proven", but I never activated that visible 
bell before this discussion started, like Lars I just disabled the bell 
altogether.  And AFAICS this is also what most popular starter kits do. 
So at least to me it's not clear whether it is widely used.

>
> I don't mind putting it to the vote sometime, here or some other place.
>

I'd be very surprised if people voted for that, but indeed a vote is 
probably the best way to decide between the two.

>> Using inverse-video also creates extra colors, unless your frame 
>> happens to display only black on white or white on black elements on 
>> the first and last line.  Moreover with my patch the colors are fully 
>> configurable, so you can adapt them to your theme.
>
> It uses only the colors that are already there, though. Just in inverse.
>

Which means "new colors".  Of course from a logical viewpoint this is 
"just in inverse", but flashing a brown on white text in green on black, 
or a blue on white text in yellow on black, does create new colors that 
weren't there.  It's like photo negatives, the colors you see are not "the 
colors that were there".

>
> But it would be interesting to try some icon-based animation in the echo 
> area, like the red circle on VSCode's pic.
>

You mean, displaying such a red circle before the error message in the 
echo area?  Not sure that would be visible enough.

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