GNU bug report logs - #1305
All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory <at> heytings.org>
Cc: larsi <at> gnus.org, 1305 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, stefan <at> marxist.se, jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 14:38:02 +0300

> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 11:10:45 +0000
> From: Gregory Heytings <gregory <at> heytings.org>
> cc: larsi <at> gnus.org, jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com, 1305 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 
>     stefan <at> marxist.se, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
> 
> > I don't see how Emacs is the odd one out here.
> 
> It just feels awkward by today's standards.

I don't share that opinion, but maybe we have different ideas of
today's standards.

> > And we are bikeshedding again: the opinions are clearly divided, and 
> > Emacs lets each one of us customize this feature as they see fit.  So 
> > why is arguing about the default so important, when there's clearly no 
> > consensus?
> 
> We are discussing what a better default could be; in another thread the 
> discussion is about a better default for the 'match' face.  Is discussing 
> the default UX useless because everyone can customize everything?

That's not what I said.  Discussing changes in the defaults is useful
when there's consensus and/or when customization is tricky.  Neither
of those are true in this case.

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