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All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead

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Message #421 received at 1305 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 1305 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Gregory Heytings <gregory <at> heytings.org>, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca,
 jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell
 instead
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 15:13:51 +0200

Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
>
>> However, I just noticed that an "emacs -Q" doesn't beep at all on this
>> machine -- because I've switched off all "alert" beeps in the OS
>> interface.  So `C-g' just says "Quit" in the echo area, and nothing
>> else.
>
> What machine is that?

It's a Debian/bullseye laptop with Gnome Shell -- so I guess it's a
Gnome Shell setting?  (The first thing I do with any machine is switch
off any "alert" beeps.)

>> So in this instance, defaulting `visible-bell' to "on" would make `C-g'
>> more intrusive/obnoxious than previously...  which is the opposite
>> effect than what was originally discussed in this bug report.
>
> Can anything be done about that, though?

I think this might point toward not doing anything about the default --
people who don't like beeps will switch them off on the OS level.  That
is, flipping the default will make `C-g' more intrusive for people
who've already made a decision to ignore beeps.

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