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24.0.50; Vc-rcs under Windows does not make buffer or file read-only when file is checked in

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From: Mathias Dahl <mathias.dahl <at> ifsworld.com>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 24.0.50; Vc-rcs under Windows does not make buffer or file
	read-only when file is checked in
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:40:13 +0100

C-x C-f c:/test.txt RET
type some data and save with C-x C-s
C-x v v
Chose RCS as backend.
Notice that the buffer is not read-only, and the same goes for the file.

This is dangerous since I by mistake started to edit a file, thinking it
was checked out. When I then did C-x v v RCS checked out the previous
version on top of my working files, overwriting all my changes.

Thanks!

/Mathias

In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
 of 2010-06-08 on 3249CTO
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7600
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Message #8 received at 10753 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Mathias Dahl <mathias.dahl <at> ifsworld.com>
Cc: 10753 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10753: 24.0.50;
	Vc-rcs under Windows does not make buffer or file read-only when file
	is checked in
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:56:04 -0500

Mathias Dahl wrote:

> C-x C-f c:/test.txt RET
> type some data and save with C-x C-s
> C-x v v
> Chose RCS as backend.
> Notice that the buffer is not read-only, and the same goes for the file.

It works for me with the current trunk under GNU/Linux.
Either this is MS Windows-specific, or...

> In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
>  of 2010-06-08 on 3249CTO

... that is fairly old. Please try the latest 24.0.9x pretest from

alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/

Message #11 received at 10753 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Mathias Dahl <mathias.dahl <at> ifsworld.com>
Cc: 10753 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10753: 24.0.50;
	Vc-rcs under Windows does not make buffer or file read-only when
	file	is checked in
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:11:37 +0200

> From: Mathias Dahl <mathias.dahl <at> ifsworld.com>
> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:40:13 +0100
> 
> C-x C-f c:/test.txt RET
> type some data and save with C-x C-s
> C-x v v
> Chose RCS as backend.
> Notice that the buffer is not read-only, and the same goes for the file.
> 
> This is dangerous since I by mistake started to edit a file, thinking it
> was checked out. When I then did C-x v v RCS checked out the previous
> version on top of my working files, overwriting all my changes.

This rings a bell.  Please see if this is not a duplicate of 8924.
You can find the RCS binaries I mentioned there on this page:

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/ezwinports/files/

Message #14 received at 10753 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mathias Dahl <mathias.dahl <at> ifsworld.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: "10753 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <10753 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: bug#10753: 24.0.50; Vc-rcs under Windows does not make buffer
	or file read-only when file is checked in
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:47:57 +0100

> It works for me with the current trunk under GNU/Linux.
> Either this is MS Windows-specific, or...

It works for me on Ubuntu GNU/Linux as well. I have tried to debug it and I haven't 
been able to arrive at a conclusion (hence this bug report) myself, but I am pretty
sure it has to do with the fact that it runs under Windows. For some reason, vs-rcs
is not able to set the file read-only after a check in or "register file" operation, like
under GNU/Linux.

I think one of the more experienced Emacs developers who has access to Windows
Will be able to recreate and find the cause quite easily. For me, vs-rcs is a bit to...
messy to understand.

>... that is fairly old. Please try the latest 24.0.9x pretest from

Sorry for that. I do use a newer version but I happened to use the older version
for reporting the bug. I have the same problem with the pretest from the middle of
January.

Thanks for the prompt reply!

/Mathias

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Message #17 received at 10753 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mathias Dahl <mathias.dahl <at> ifsworld.com>
To: "10753 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <10753 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Eli's hunch was correct
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:06:02 +0100

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Eli's hunch was correct, it had to do with the RCS tool I used, which was from Cygwin. I installed the binaries Eli pointed to and made sure those were found earlier in the PATH and not it seems to work.

Also, I was a bit embarrassed when I understood that RCS was not an internal tool in Emacs... I don't know why, but I got the impression that Emacs was handling the RCS stuff internally, so I never suspected that there would be external tools.

Thanks!

/Mathias


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Message #20 received at 10753-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Mathias Dahl <mathias.dahl <at> ifsworld.com>
Cc: 10753-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#10753: Eli's hunch was correct
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:57:06 +0200

> From: Mathias Dahl <mathias.dahl <at> ifsworld.com>
> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:06:02 +0100
> 
> Eli's hunch was correct, it had to do with the RCS tool I used, which was from Cygwin. I installed the binaries Eli pointed to and made sure those were found earlier in the PATH and not it seems to work.

Glad you figured this out.

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