From unknown Mon Aug 18 14:25:38 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#988 <988@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#988 <988@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: cursor runs over prompt in minibuffer; suggestion on default Reply-To: bug#988 <988@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 21:25:38 +0000 retitle 988 cursor runs over prompt in minibuffer; suggestion on default reassign 988 emacs submitter 988 xah lee severity 988 wishlist tag 988 wontfix thanks From xah@xahlee.org Tue Sep 16 13:42:57 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Sep 2008 20:42:57 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m8GKgq1Q027829 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:42:54 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KfhNr-0006NR-EI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:42:51 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KfhNp-0006MO-PY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:42:50 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36135 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KfhNp-0006MH-Ii for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:42:49 -0400 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194]:55338) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KfhNo-0006np-Nt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:42:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (c-24-6-185-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.185.159]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1KfhNY2HHL-0005A1; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:42:33 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8E294DBC-E7A0-4846-8053-2E42DDA0F8FA@xahlee.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: xah lee Subject: cursor runs over prompt in minibuffer; suggestion on default Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:42:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+nKNyoIlm93zd8eU9j97wNDynNqynq722i2Fp UamC8qwdI5B93Xao0Mgna8b5RCfUqaIcGh/Npaeh0sQHqL8QCq aN28UecWeNZchfB2dNfOg== X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Suggestion: I think that cursor shouldn't run over prompt by default. =20= This behavior is basically universal today. Here's a newsgroup gnu.emacs.help post that prompted me to file this =20 as a =E2=80=9Cbug=E2=80=9D: ------------------------------------------------- Davin Pearson asked: When I execute M-x find-file it says Find File: Why I press cursor =20 left a few times and then try to press a key, it says: "Text is read =20 only". Surely a more natural behavour would be to beep and not allow =20= the user to type in that character in the first place. What gives? Daniel Pittman wrote: A: M-x customize-variable minibuffer-prompt-properties Enable the "Don't Enter" option and save your changes Thanks a lot! When i switched to emacs in about 2006 from 4 years of xemacs, i was =20 quite annoyed by this behavior. I remember i posted this question, i =20 got some silly responses from emacs regulars in comp.emacs, who says =20 that something to the effect that =E2=80=9Csometimes you need to copy = the =20 prompt=E2=80=9D. in my opinion, is this one of the usability problem. Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84 =E2=98=84 From cyd@stupidchicken.com Thu Sep 18 11:26:49 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 Sep 2008 18:26:50 +0000 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m8IIQl4N030099 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:26:48 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 25DFE57E33A; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:30:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: severity 988 wishlist Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:30:33 -0400 Message-ID: <87zlm571di.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii severity 988 wishlist thanks From rgm@gnu.org Wed Oct 8 00:04:26 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FAKE_REPLY_C, HAS_BUG_NUMBER,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,VALID_BTS_CONTROL,X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 8 Oct 2008 07:04:26 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9874H5U004427; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 00:04:18 -0700 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KnT3R-000700-Dr; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:01:53 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 988-quiet@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#988: cursor runs over prompt in minibuffer; suggestion on default X-Spook: oil cypherpunk credit card smuggle ASDIC NWO Medco X-Ran: >9]\Ob|ZYmPjgD+i(8]nDChFs>S<^vk2dX?Oy%p'_)NO&v)eT/fVPE&'pwTNmLOcPvQx(D X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:01:53 -0400 Message-ID: <9xej2ra7tq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 tags 988 wontfix stop Tagging as wontfix following Stefan's comment in emacs-devel: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-10/msg00133.html > How about making including `point-entered minibuffer-avoid-prompt' > in the default value of `minibuffer-prompt-properties'? No: the small benefit is not worth the cost of not being able to copy (part of) the prompt like any other piece of text. 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