From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 07 14:34:17 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2011 18:34:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCFFQ-0007uZ-Sf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:34:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCFFO-0007uL-3O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:34:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCFF2-00012l-4V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:33:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, TO_NO_BRKTS_PCNT autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:46889) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCFF2-00012h-31 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:33:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35625) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCFF0-0006P0-Sd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:33:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCFEz-00012N-8F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:33:50 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:64011) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCFEy-00012F-T6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:33:49 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LSP00400KIL5H00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:30:34 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.91.138]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LSP004J9KQX4N20@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:30:34 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:30:37 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: 24.0.90; Inserting 0x2215 produces 0x29F5 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Message-id: <83pqi8fycy.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: handa@m17n.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Type: a C-x 8 RET 2215 RET b You will see the expected: a=E2=88=95b Now type: =D7=90 C-x 8 RET 2215 RET =D7=91 And you will see something entirely different: =D7=90=E2=88=95=D7= =91 There's a glyphless character displayed between the two letters whos= e code is 0x29F5 (or at least that's what Emacs shows in the empty rectangle on my system; YMMV if you have a different font set). Interestingly enough, "C-x =3D" claims that both characters are 0x22= 15 and are displayed using the same font... Bug or feature? If a feature, what is the intent here? In GNU Emacs 24.0.90.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-09-26 on HOME-C4E4A596F7 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1255 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: desktop-save-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t temp-buffer-resize-mode: t line-number-mode: t Recent input: =20 C-w =20 R u n SPC . / a u t o g e n . s h =20 , SPC a n d SPC B o b ' s SPC y o u r SPC u n c l e=20 =2E C-c C-s d d d d=20 d d d d C-z C-z C-z C-z C-z C-z C-z C-z C-z C-z C-z=20 C-z C-z C-z C-z C-z C-z C-z C-z M-: ( g e t - c h a=20 r - c o d e - p r o p e r t y SPC # x 2 2 1 5 SPC '=20 b i d i - c l a s s ) M-: =20 =20 2 f =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 C-x =3D =20 C-SPC C-SPC =20 M-w C-SPC M-w C-x b f o o =20 a C-y b =D7=90 C-y =D7=91=20 =20 C-x =3D =20 C-x 8 2 2 1 5 =20 C-x =3D =20 M-x =D7=A8 =D7=A7 =D7=A4 =D7=9D =D7=A8 =D7=90 =20 =20 r e p o r t - e m Recent messages: Sending... Added to d:/usr/eli/rmail/SENT.MAIL Sending email...done Sending...done ON CS Char: =E2=88=95 (8725, #o21025, #x2215, file ...) point=3D2180 of 318= 3 (68%) column=3D53 Mark set [5 times] Char: =E2=88=95 (8725, #o21025, #x2215) point=3D3 of 9 (22%) column= =3D1 Char: =E2=88=95 (8725, #o21025, #x2215) point=3D8 of 10 (70%) column= =3D1 byte-code: End of buffer Load-path shadows: None found. 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But as soon as I typ= e the 3rd character, =D7=91,the =E2=88=95 disappears and in its stead a= ppears an empty rectangle, which "C-x =3D" claims is 0x2215. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 07 14:58:04 2011 Received: (at 9698-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2011 18:58:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCFcR-0008Tf-Pa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:58:04 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCFcO-0008TA-HK for 9698-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:58:01 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LSP00A00LEG5S00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 9698-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:53:30 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.91.138]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LSP0096XLT5V870@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 9698-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:53:30 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:53:34 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#9698: 24.0.90; Inserting 0x2215 produces 0x29F5 In-reply-to: <83pqi8fycy.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: 9698-done@debbugs.gnu.org Message-id: <83mxdcfxap.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83pqi8fycy.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9698-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) tags 9698 notabug stop > Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 20:30:37 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > Bug or feature? If a feature, what is the intent here? Answering my own question: a feature. This is due to the fact that 0x2215 is a mirrored character, and its mirror image is 0x29F5; see admin/unidata/BidiMirroring.txt. Emacs behaves as intended here, and mirrors the character when it is in right-to-left context. Closing the bug. From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:29:26 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator