From unknown Fri Aug 15 03:38:16 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#9668 <9668@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#9668 <9668@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.50; doc of `declare' (non-CL version) Reply-To: bug#9668 <9668@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:38:16 +0000 retitle 9668 24.0.50; doc of `declare' (non-CL version) reassign 9668 emacs submitter 9668 "Drew Adams" severity 9668 minor tag 9668 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 04 12:25:29 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2011 16:25:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7o9-0002hN-F4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:25:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7o6-0002hG-Hh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:25:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7md-00039c-NV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:23:56 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:33806) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7md-00039Y-M4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:23:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60790) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7mZ-0007tM-Lv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:23:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7mY-000397-Mr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:23:51 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:23017) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RB7mY-00038u-FB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:23:50 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p94GNlUA030933 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 16:23:49 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p94GNl5G000956 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 16:23:47 GMT Received: from abhmt113.oracle.com (abhmt113.oracle.com [141.146.116.65]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p94GNf9K016719 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 11:23:41 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.58.205) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 09:23:41 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.50; doc of `declare' (non-CL version) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:23:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1CD1C451F98840C2BFEBEF203E5E058F@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcyCsfs6NiUXSpT/SB2ZszK1aVjY6g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4E8B3315.00B9:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) `(elisp) Defining Macros says' that `declare' works only for `debug' and `indent'. But the Emacs Lisp source code has lots of occurrences of `doc-string', and `ignore' as well. Seems like the doc is not up-to-date? (I'm not counting occurrences of CL's `declare special'.) (And the `declare' doc string just refers to the manual - does not describe the SPECS that it mentions at all. That's probably OK.) In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-09-19 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 07 00:48:44 2012 Received: (at 9668) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2012 05:48:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47531 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjP91-0005tZ-TG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:48:44 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:53478) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjP8z-0005tR-8l for 9668@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:48:42 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjP8s-00033d-H4; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 06:48:34 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#9668: 24.0.50; doc of `declare' (non-CL version) References: <1CD1C451F98840C2BFEBEF203E5E058F@us.oracle.com> X-Now-Playing: Fennesz, Sakamoto's _Flumina (2)_: "0429" Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 06:48:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1CD1C451F98840C2BFEBEF203E5E058F@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:23:42 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1RjP8s-00033d-H4 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1326520114.6507@vyc8vOLdQ7ZBXW1XvaD5vQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9668 Cc: 9668@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) "Drew Adams" writes: > `(elisp) Defining Macros says' that `declare' works only for `debug' and > `indent'. But the Emacs Lisp source code has lots of occurrences of > `doc-string', and `ignore' as well. Seems like the doc is not > up-to-date? (I'm not counting occurrences of CL's `declare special'.) The only instances of `ignore' I could find weren't in `defmacro' forms, which probably means that it has no effect whatsoever. But I've now added `doc-string' to the manual. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 07 00:48:46 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2012 05:48:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47534 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjP94-0005to-9d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:48:46 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:53484) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjP92-0005ta-Kf for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:48:44 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjP8w-00033v-Kh for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 06:48:38 +0100 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 06:48:38 +0100 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #9668 X-MailScanner-ID: 1RjP8w-00033v-Kh X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1326520118.69504@FdnqruyGA5QeX/d+eSKL2A X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) tags 9668 fixed close 9668 24.1 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 07 10:35:28 2012 Received: (at 9668) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2012 15:35:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjYIq-0000cj-1p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:35:28 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:34604) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjYIo-0000cY-Cn for 9668@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:35:27 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id q07FZGNd017387 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:35:17 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q07FZFqt009012 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:35:16 GMT Received: from abhmt101.oracle.com (abhmt101.oracle.com [141.146.116.53]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q07FZF8T032617; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 09:35:15 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.36.141) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 07:35:14 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" References: <1CD1C451F98840C2BFEBEF203E5E058F@us.oracle.com> Subject: RE: bug#9668: 24.0.50; doc of `declare' (non-CL version) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 07:35:09 -0800 Message-ID: <7027390D990F4805BC3E04B35C550D1A@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: thread-index: AczNAAS7iOVF2PE3SpOIkIW8mpM28wAUa+5A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A02020B.4F086635.0090,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9668 Cc: 9668@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) > The only instances of `ignore' I could find weren't in > `defmacro' forms, which probably means that it has no effect whatsoever. > > But I've now added `doc-string' to the manual. Thanks. I don't have your fix in front of me. Hope you also corrected the last sentence of the node: "It only affects secondary features: indentation and Edebug." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 25 18:59:28 2012 Received: (at 9668) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2012 23:59:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqCkR-0004e4-D9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:59:28 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:39471) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqCkP-0004dw-7U for 9668@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:59:25 -0500 Received: from 93-41-173-241.ip82.fastwebnet.it ([93.41.173.241] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqCjq-0004AH-Hr; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:58:50 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#9668: 24.0.50; doc of `declare' (non-CL version) References: <1CD1C451F98840C2BFEBEF203E5E058F@us.oracle.com> <7027390D990F4805BC3E04B35C550D1A@us.oracle.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:58:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7027390D990F4805BC3E04B35C550D1A@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 7 Jan 2012 07:35:09 -0800") Message-ID: <87pqe7s5ah.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1RqCjq-0004AH-Hr X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1328140730.87796@82dc/V7R8/le8TuR2lYxVA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9668 Cc: 9668@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) "Drew Adams" writes: > Thanks. I don't have your fix in front of me. Hope you also > corrected the last sentence of the node: "It only affects secondary > features: indentation and Edebug." No, because I didn't think that was wrong. Does `doc-string' do anything other than alter the indentation of the doc string? Hm... I guess `autoload' also uses it. I'll fix up that paragraph, too. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Sent from my Rome From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 25 19:23:17 2012 Received: (at 9668) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2012 00:23:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44177 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqD7V-0005yJ-5t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:23:17 -0500 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:38028) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqD7T-0005y1-HB for 9668@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:23:16 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id q0Q0MdOb022534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:22:40 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q0Q0McqP009626 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:22:39 GMT Received: from abhmt117.oracle.com (abhmt117.oracle.com [141.146.116.69]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q0Q0McCq017377; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:22:38 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:22:38 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Lars Ingebrigtsen'" References: <1CD1C451F98840C2BFEBEF203E5E058F@us.oracle.com><7027390D990F4805BC3E04B35C550D1A@us.oracle.com> <87pqe7s5ah.fsf@gnus.org> Subject: RE: bug#9668: 24.0.50; doc of `declare' (non-CL version) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:22:36 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87pqe7s5ah.fsf@gnus.org> Thread-Index: AczbvU8kDHSqM+cLTVu7BuXkxupxtwAAyoyw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4F209CD0.00A6,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9668 Cc: 9668@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) > > Thanks. I don't have your fix in front of me. Hope you also > > corrected the last sentence of the node: "It only affects secondary > > features: indentation and Edebug." > > No, because I didn't think that was wrong. Does `doc-string' do > anything other than alter the indentation of the doc string? > > Hm... I guess `autoload' also uses it. I'll fix up that paragraph, > too. Huh? It's not about what `doc-string' affects. It's about what `declare' affects. The sentence says that `declare' is only for `indent' and `debug', but it is also for `doc-string'. That's the point. From unknown Fri Aug 15 03:38:16 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:24:08 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator