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24.0.50; woman loses single quotes

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eric Hanchrow <eric.hanchrow <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.0.50; woman loses single quotes
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:07:27 -0700

I typed M-x woman RET Moose::Manual::Classes RET.

I saw (among other text) this:

       package Person;
       use Moose;
       has ssn => ( is => rw );

That looks perfectly plausible.  But I eventually realized that there
are supposed to be single-quotes around the "ssn" and the "rw".  M-x man
gets it right (although for some reason it has some blank lines):

         package Person;

         use Moose;

         has 'ssn' => ( is => 'rw' );

In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.4)
 of 2011-08-22 on erich-laptop
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11001000
Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: WoMan

Minor modes in effect:
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Message #8 received at 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Eric Hanchrow <eric.hanchrow <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#9447: 24.0.50; woman loses single quotes
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 20:37:14 -0400

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

The man page has a fairly complicated header, and isn't using plain
quotes (source attached). WoMan complains:

  **  Undefined register F defaulted to 0.
  **  if v -- unrecognized condition name rejected!
  **  if v -- unrecognized condition name rejected!
  **  Undefined string Aq not interpolated!
  **  Unknown font CW.
  **  rm #[ #] #H #V #F C  request ignored!

[Moose::Manual::Classes.3p (application/octet-stream, attachment)]

Message #11 received at 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Eric Hanchrow <eric.hanchrow <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#9447: 24.0.50; woman loses single quotes
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 02:48:47 -0400

close 9447 24.1
stop

I think I fixed this. AFAICS, woman-if-body, which was unchanged since
woman.el was introduced, contained code that made no sense. A minimal
example of a file showing the problem is anything with more than one .ie
block, eg:

    .ie n .ds Ab x
    .el .ds Ab y
    .ie \n(.g .ds Aq \(aq
    .el       .ds Aq '
    .TH Moose
    .nh
    .SH "NAME"
    for example
    .PP
    \&  has \*(Aqssn\*(Aq

I sort of wonder what the point of woman.el is. It has a punny name, but
is basically a partial, buggy, reimplementation of a very standard
external program that is surely installed on any system where man pages
are used. Eg I note that it doesn't render man.1 correctly on my current
system, with the current trunk doing a worse job than Emacs 23.3 does.

Message #16 received at 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, eric.hanchrow <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#9447: 24.0.50; woman loses single quotes
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 10:24:15 +0300

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 02:48:47 -0400
> Cc: Eric Hanchrow <eric.hanchrow <at> gmail.com>
> 
> I sort of wonder what the point of woman.el is. It has a punny name, but
> is basically a partial, buggy, reimplementation of a very standard
> external program that is surely installed on any system where man pages
> are used.

You obviously forget the use case of Emacs on MS-Windows.  Man pages
come with many ported packages (including Emacs ;-), but I know of
only 2 decent version of the `man' program available for Windows: one
requires Cygwin to be installed, the other was written by yours truly,
and is not available as a Windows binary in any public site that I
know of (although the sources are available under GPL and can be
easily compiled on Windows).  Thus woman.el.

> Eg I note that it doesn't render man.1 correctly on my current
> system, with the current trunk doing a worse job than Emacs 23.3 does.

Patches are very welcome.

Message #19 received at 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, eric.hanchrow <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#9447: 24.0.50; woman loses single quotes
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 03:34:00 -0400

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> You obviously forget the use case of Emacs on MS-Windows.

If only I could...

> Patches are very welcome.

The patch is to revert r103011, as commented in bug#7843.

Message #22 received at 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, eric.hanchrow <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#9447: 24.0.50; woman loses single quotes
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 10:58:20 +0300

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  eric.hanchrow <at> gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 03:34:00 -0400
> 
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > You obviously forget the use case of Emacs on MS-Windows.
> 
> If only I could...

And btw, man.el doesn't work on Windows anyway, even if you have an
external `man' program, due to its quoting that assumes a Posix shell.
I tried to fix that once, but gave up after a few hours, telling
myself "they always have woman.el...".

Message #25 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9447: 24.0.50; woman loses single quotes
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:25:53 +0100

On Fri 09 Sep 2011, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
>> Cc: 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  eric.hanchrow <at> gmail.com
>> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 03:34:00 -0400
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> 
>> > You obviously forget the use case of Emacs on MS-Windows.
>> 
>> If only I could...
>
> And btw, man.el doesn't work on Windows anyway, even if you have an
> external `man' program, due to its quoting that assumes a Posix shell.
> I tried to fix that once, but gave up after a few hours, telling
> myself "they always have woman.el...".

Works perfectly well with Cygwin though :-)

    AndyM

Message #28 received at 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 9447 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9447: 24.0.50; woman loses single quotes
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:56:16 +0300

> From: Andy Moreton <andrewjmoreton <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:25:53 +0100
> 
> > And btw, man.el doesn't work on Windows anyway, even if you have an
> > external `man' program, due to its quoting that assumes a Posix shell.
> > I tried to fix that once, but gave up after a few hours, telling
> > myself "they always have woman.el...".
> 
> Works perfectly well with Cygwin though :-)

Which part of "assumes a Posix shell" did I fail to make clear?

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