From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:24:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9445: 24.0.50; `help-make-xrefs' has bad logic Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 9445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 9445@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.131525793928550 (code B ref -1); Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:26:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2011 21:25:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0gfj-0007QR-7y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:25:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0gfh-0007QK-OG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:25:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R0gc5-0000pn-A8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:21:54 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:40479) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R0gc5-0000pj-8Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:21:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42131) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R0gc4-0007CG-Ch for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:21:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R0gc3-0000nQ-2i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:21:52 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:22379) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R0gc2-0000n7-Tl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:21:51 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p85LLlTt001142 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:21:49 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p85LLlSh017450 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 21:21:47 GMT Received: from abhmt112.oracle.com (abhmt112.oracle.com [141.146.116.64]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p85LLgRT004923 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:21:42 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.63.21) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 05 Sep 2011 14:21:41 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 14:21:28 -0700 Message-ID: <5C2D10B06A86411AB41D35478F642D7D@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Thread-Index: AcxsEcYT1Zi7QeX/R1uDAV0wS6Pq6Q== X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4E653D6D.0113:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) 1. The doc string is inaccurate and misleading. It says: "Faces only get cross-referenced if preceded or followed by the word `face'. What really seems to happen is that if preceded by the word `face' then ONLY a face is looked for to cross-reference. That is not at all the same thing. It also says: "Variables without variable documentation do not get cross-referenced, unless preceded by the word `variable' or `option'." Again, what really seems to happen is that if preceded by one of those words then ONLY a variable or option, resp., is looked for to cross-reference. Not at all the same thing. 2. Besides the doc describing the behavior incorrectly, the behavior itself is broken/poor. What SHOULD happen, if you must key off of the preceding word, is that the type of thing guessed at due to that preceding word is looked for FIRST, but not EXCLUSIVELY. You simply look for `variable', and if you find it then you check for a documented variable of that name. That's silly - not enough. E.g., if a function name `foo' happens to be preceded by `face', `variable', or `option', and if there is no corresponding foo `face', `variable', or `option', then it SHOULD pick up and cross-reference the FUNCTION `foo'. In sum, try your heuristics in order until you find a match or there is no match. Do not just try one and then give up. If you introduce a sketchy heuristic such as using the preceding word, then at least follow through and DTRT if no xref of that corresponding type can be found. Do not just ASSUME that the preceding word is the be-all and end-all, necessarily determining perfectly the proper type. It's just a FIRST GUESS. If it doesn't match, then DTRT - look for a function, command, etc. FWIW, it took me a while to figure out why, in a list of command names and their descriptions, there was an occasional command name that had no link. It turned out that the preceding line (the end of the previous commands' one-liner description) ended with "face" or "option" etc. Sheesh. 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Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > `help-make-xrefs' tries to guess the type of a symbol that is enclosed > in `...', in help. > > This determination needs to to be improved, or else programmers need > some way to inhibit it when it [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Drew Adams writes: > `help-make-xrefs' tries to guess the type of a symbol that is enclosed > in `...', in help. > > This determination needs to to be improved, or else programmers need > some way to inhibit it when it turns out to be inappropriate. > > Example: This is part of a doc string I have: > > `isearchp-movement-unit-alist'\t- units and their movement functions > `isearchp-on-demand-action-function'\t- on-demand action function > `isearchp-prompt-for-filter-name'\t- when to ask for filter name > > Those symbols are all variables (in fact, user options), not functions. > but the word "function" at the end of the second line causes the quoted > symbol that follows it to be considered as a function name. And then, > because it is not `fboundp', it gets no link. It should instead get a > variable-name link to its definition. There wasn't any recipe for reproduction here, so I came up with this: (defun foo1 ()) (defvar foo2 ()) (defvar foo nil " `foo1' something. `foo1'\t- units and their movement functions `foo2' something. `foo2'\t- units and their movement functions ") When evaling this and then `C-h v foo RET' in Emacs 28, all these are recognised as symbols in the *Help* buffer, so this seems to work for me in this test case, at least. 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Thanks for testing. This was apparently fixed in release 24. The bug was filed in a snapshot between 23 and 24. (The bug still exists in 23.) So this can be closed. Thx. (I can't speak to the merges with other bugs, however. Maybe they should not all be closed.) 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Content preview: unmerge 9445 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) unmerge 9445 quit From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:24:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9445: [External] : Re: bug#9445: 24.0.50; `help-make-xrefs' has bad logic Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 19:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Drew Adams Cc: "9445@debbugs.gnu.org" <9445@debbugs.gnu.org>, "24842@debbugs.gnu.org" <24842@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 9445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9445.163104291322184 (code B ref 9445); Tue, 07 Sep 2021 19:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 9445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2021 19:28:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57831 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNgll-0005li-7A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:28:33 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51300) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNglj-0005lR-H4; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:28:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=sidTjzOmVcEYvCN0KfTCXjHIBQSdUhrDPLJOtKkTEFg=; b=tNY2xCdJYls2FnG/Wt1uWNR/RY 4K0Os4TPc6g3bK+din5KQxJqmwppupg98lxvHdNBnouIrEbGMXlGHas8KE2zaaUVhk0V6TVGHV3Fh yn/H0Gazsl2AnsmpWPe2ivG2w3E6mX9iZCz93Tyd1lBxtq00ifWV5w4Q3dQo82jxPtDc=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNglb-0000ub-40; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:28:25 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <87pmtk9sgb.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:28:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 7 Sep 2021 19:24:24 +0000") Message-ID: <87h7ew89t5.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: >> Are you still seeing this issue in recent Emacs versions? > > Thanks for testing. This was apparently fixed in release 24. > The bug was filed in a snapshot between 23 and 24. (The bug > still exis [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Drew Adams writes: >> Are you still seeing this issue in recent Emacs versions? > > Thanks for testing. This was apparently fixed in release 24. > The bug was filed in a snapshot between 23 and 24. (The bug > still exists in 23.) > > So this can be closed. Thx. Thanks; closing this, then. > (I can't speak to the merges with other bugs, however. > Maybe they should not all be closed.) Yeah, they aren't about the same thing as this one, so I've now de-merged them. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:24:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9445: bug#24842: bug#9445: 24.0.50; `help-make-xrefs' has bad logic Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 19:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 9445@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams , 24842@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 9445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9445.163104389332167 (code B ref 9445); Tue, 07 Sep 2021 19:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 9445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2021 19:44:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57852 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNh1Z-0008Ml-Jj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:44:53 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:39627) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNh1Y-0008MV-7V; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:44:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1631043881; bh=B8hVOhRbjUh/Np0mRoRPWl9qQl9kjgFBue+Z3TD/LGc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=dDSmNIbR1mG6QW16Pts2hdcpoUrjL2ECPwYgzsp964osubxhbw8XxHbkLegikEt5b btsxdAPs8eSt4LUvhZw6Gk8DLH3h3fSFQSSYhaxZwINioGLByUtJSJfXKLcwbmhfzk pZdM2sr3ePqkJvMQnhHnMiYwhvfM3g9nyy2kNgDs= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobelfs ([188.109.165.244]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MbzuB-1mx2hi2ov9-00dYvJ; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:44:41 +0200 From: Stephen Berman References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <87pmtk9sgb.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:44:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87pmtk9sgb.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 07 Sep 2021 20:00:20 +0200") Message-ID: <87wnnsgogn.fsf@rub.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:TH/CqQ0JUXVGDbMzSwA0L4xUgD8cKIdE6w1rF2DYbgXEvEIMe81 +bt4sZDKP2cS+qshGgulrdBt4iWUrFg7Co99tClFnuEAtGLfM+6mEHQnTCe4FkvOQFXwce4 jt/v6i6v7MizcHl2joXG0/CujztGTL7zKVu3HokAyfkh4tUoqFcHCIppA1N7GnCZxSdEy2M kFvi6fnCABFhFJ00Fv91A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:nLI15WWIKKk=:OKpU3dntmpeHub+alQDWRO vasOcRVay2UYfky33ssDfWXmn8XWj/+C7Oglr3HDzTmkG/K/1T58R6chf24erdQ1B+92O6mes izKmYOMGMS6hAwqEy0VxeRw7CR6wMlOTLYkWcfKESwsPssVTMTGu/uAdAuDppgxd8qifYtaG1 Fp09dCKdJD8HowuaRw7fHAkCCL1cw0qTw5/xZH3wn17ItSub4UXmO0E+MwHwRGkBf3Zms5hUe mEAQX/6TSPWtSQvElafs2u3IVx/GDSe4NV1zOKzbFEeK4aMgBhw0R03Qlop17Dz99Up+GAFSB Ae8gfdoDvfmlfeGyCEUyx5YZEUL3HVZOaWFbhPt2+eJ/3d3EJFMHLQL+vOR1LfUbUCLb8XBfS PBgbHhcp4QnWSpZHzWfALVTPeOzGKNJXC/T6Ms3PU4kq1BfzjrwBGpehhMqO/Au9EbxrkFEFF e5yy7HKq+y0Ptsg4tmNpJmA0v54xoYPKW2WZ6MwYaViafg62yHHgSbPmC2KdQrHljKPX6jE7b JacNn5XWTlt/EzYOboijwLLsJL6YdHE0iMy04XduX6JiratOogt6jMYivrVlIRCyJGd+zzuAU kpWhGfxU246QYLGxbksDJ1QEbcV1NANPcRTbuSWbtZPzjXkz9gOLINRMwB9NU+3maeP5TTAU1 VfdRSA5o09A8wd8FlnQfuFR2WCApYsc5HWNubn0eTpS/jhxo2YVngASCKr95Pg9QT2Zo3oR4X lQLzE86GRr6WqvzgtvTobAgMcPdSA00ZSF4W6OmNFD01oOZV6WQnx+1W3KZZHcXNISV00jDmu 36X3E0SJoQUpJtS90+ezi/10lpcDF+co7ahfN759hM96F3+c3Di+qnrj++Sn/u7UKS2kxR5Ek K6adryqeMWbErHTX1fyllbhcniZ14PaOEOEVarew/eSpQrvuUWgskxfYhljgXX8cNiECSnYBW pQUo98E3sJK54TDdoLOb4udzti5SsHeCQlnFF4xB1EW2YkI/iOSSQH1/0eXi6D7UzVVCDj3Ww 1yzhblEVoXHkGHG4dyAesdVAAMNLHaBwriInndpkfz7wu8hAwo/xVutxLFEF9qR16qlJ01Tyz egVmfFxRyVeOu8= X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Tue, 07 Sep 2021 20:00:20 +0200 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Drew Adams writes: > >> `help-make-xrefs' tries to guess the type of a symbol that is enclosed >> in `...', in help. >> >> This determination needs to to be improved, or else programmers need >> some way to inhibit it when it turns out to be inappropriate. >> >> Example: This is part of a doc string I have: >> >> `isearchp-movement-unit-alist'\t- units and their movement functions >> `isearchp-on-demand-action-function'\t- on-demand action function >> `isearchp-prompt-for-filter-name'\t- when to ask for filter name >> >> Those symbols are all variables (in fact, user options), not functions. >> but the word "function" at the end of the second line causes the quoted >> symbol that follows it to be considered as a function name. And then, >> because it is not `fboundp', it gets no link. It should instead get a >> variable-name link to its definition. > > There wasn't any recipe for reproduction here, so I came up with this: > > (defun foo1 ()) > (defvar foo2 ()) > > (defvar foo nil > " > `foo1' something. > `foo1'\t- units and their movement functions > `foo2' something. > `foo2'\t- units and their movement functions > ") > > When evaling this and then `C-h v foo RET' in Emacs 28, all these are > recognised as symbols in the *Help* buffer, so this seems to work for me > in this test case, at least. > > Are you still seeing this issue in recent Emacs versions? On Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:28:22 +0200 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Drew Adams writes: > >>> Are you still seeing this issue in recent Emacs versions? >> >> Thanks for testing. This was apparently fixed in release 24. >> The bug was filed in a snapshot between 23 and 24. (The bug >> still exists in 23.) >> >> So this can be closed. Thx. > > Thanks; closing this, then. But the recipe Lars gave doesn't quite match the description Drew gave, IIUC: if in the recipe you change the first occurrence of `functions' to `function', then eval and do `C-h v foo', then the first occurrence of `foo2' in the doc string is not turned into a link. Isn't that what the problem was, and still is? Steve Berman From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:24:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9445: bug#24842: bug#9445: 24.0.50; `help-make-xrefs' has bad logic Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 19:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Stephen Berman Cc: 9445@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams , 24842@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 9445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9445.1631044533852 (code B ref 9445); Tue, 07 Sep 2021 19:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 9445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2021 19:55:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57868 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNhBt-0000Db-FO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:55:33 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51558) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mNhBq-0000DE-D9; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 15:55:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ap85yZTgks1OvWdzyKxwJ/4Mpfpbr42VvDmzyYxSP5Q=; b=Djec5sCKUgksoyBAZJ+NMHQvbN U736YoDs8sldHLSBIpfqZrbWY4U4pmgxt40aajIjqPp3sxRMEZuBX0DeBwIYPrVnqEKhX8WpOpA2r w2N1dGShYo0VAsHCAWHunAnrkQN703TF+1qqo+wyeI3qzPFJDgA/QisFLbAuK7BEXy7w=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNhBg-00016l-Rj; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:55:23 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <87pmtk9sgb.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnnsgogn.fsf@rub.de> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:55:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87wnnsgogn.fsf@rub.de> (Stephen Berman's message of "Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:44:40 +0200") Message-ID: <87bl5488k7.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stephen Berman writes: > But the recipe Lars gave doesn't quite match the description Drew gave, > IIUC: if in the recipe you change the first occurrence of `functions' to > `function', then eval and do `C-h v foo', then th [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stephen Berman writes: > But the recipe Lars gave doesn't quite match the description Drew gave, > IIUC: if in the recipe you change the first occurrence of `functions' to > `function', then eval and do `C-h v foo', then the first occurrence of > `foo2' in the doc string is not turned into a link. Isn't that what the > problem was, and still is? Yup. So here's the recipe to reproduce the problem: (defun foo1 ()) (defvar foo2 ()) (defvar foo nil " `foo1'\t- on-demand action function `foo2'") So I'm reopening the bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:24:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9445: [External] : Re: bug#24842: bug#9445: 24.0.50; `help-make-xrefs' has bad logic Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 20:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Stephen Berman , Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: "9445@debbugs.gnu.org" <9445@debbugs.gnu.org>, "24842@debbugs.gnu.org" <24842@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 9445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9445.163104559010864 (code B ref 9445); Tue, 07 Sep 2021 20:14:02 +0000 Received: (at 9445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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Isn't that what > the > problem was, and still is? Hm. You're right, Stephen. But not with just that change, I think. And it looks like the problem is maybe for defun doc strings but not for defvar doc strings? (But see below.) (defun foo1 ()) (defvar foo2 ()) (defvar foo nil " `foo2' something. `foo2'\t- units and their movement function `foo1' something. `foo1'\t- units and their movement function ") (defun bar () " `foo2' something. `foo2'\t- units and their movement function `foo' something. `foo'\t- units and their movement function " 42) `C-h v foo' shows links everywhere, for both var foo2 and function foo1. But `C-h f bar' does not show a link for the first occurrence of `foo'. ___ What's odd, and the reason I thought this was fixed, is that I checked (using `emacs -Q') the doc string in my code that I was reporting about. That doc string is for a function, not a variable, but it (correctly) has links for all of the variables mentioned in it. The recipe for the original report is this: 1. Download library isearch+.el from here: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/isearch%2b.el 2. Load that source code. 3. `C-h f isearch-forward' 4. This variable (user option) in the doc was not linked, but should have been: `isearchp-prompt-for-filter-name'. But now that option has a link. (With the above recipe all have links except those with `[*]', which the doc tells you are defined in another library - so no links is correct without that library loaded.) 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Content preview: tags 9445 - moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 9445 - moreinfo quit From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:24:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9445: bug#24842: 24.5; `help-make-xrefs': False link-type determinations Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: 9445@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams , 24842@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 9445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9445.16449217952203 (code B ref 9445); Tue, 15 Feb 2022 10:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 9445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2022 10:43:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43622 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nJvIh-0000ZN-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:43:15 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:47794) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nJvIf-0000Z0-4P; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:43:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7jxPQnDTtxdrXu5o4m6VYGuVJPy9UZGHpEYFAyUOTq8=; b=Ml0S6cNjPUPo654k+6m0bDsN26 GSVniecs1sUTkIky+7EfUN8UoT1UyQGvi6yuTw8UsiIBs8wrVci5oTXssbqIDg9VqTHHI07ElfCbB 9uLwskItv2FmRNwPCZQjnTMfCCDaN9iZxJYKALkkgIFAyUEGLSSv1RD+NsHtTOZb6fME=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nJvIV-0000Zm-D3; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:43:06 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <87pmtk9sgb.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnnsgogn.fsf@rub.de> <87bl5488k7.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: That Dog's _Totally Crushed Out_: "Silently" Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 11:43:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87bl5488k7.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 07 Sep 2021 21:55:20 +0200") Message-ID: <871r04pg09.fsf_-_@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Yup. So here's the recipe to reproduce the problem: > > (defun foo1 ()) > (defvar foo2 ()) > > (defvar foo nil > " > `foo1'\t- on-demand action function > `foo2'") > > So I'm reopening the bug repor [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Yup. So here's the recipe to reproduce the problem: > > (defun foo1 ()) > (defvar foo2 ()) > > (defvar foo nil > " > `foo1'\t- on-demand action function > `foo2'") > > So I'm reopening the bug report. But looking at this thing again, the DWIM code trying to parse doc strings and adding links just can't get this case right. It's, reasonably enough, interpreting "function `foo2'" as a function (even if it's on two lines), and then seeing that it isn't, so it doesn't add a link. I think the answer here "don't do that, then" -- i.e., you have to write this in a different way to help the DWIM logic. 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So here's the recipe to reproduce the problem: > > > > (defun foo1 ()) > > (defvar foo2 ()) > > > > (defvar foo nil > > " > > `foo1'\t- on-demand action function > > `foo2'") > > > > So I'm reopening the bug report. >=20 > But looking at this thing again, the DWIM code trying to parse doc > strings and adding links just can't get this case right. >=20 > It's, reasonably enough, interpreting "function `foo2'" as a function > (even if it's on two lines), and then seeing that it isn't, so it > doesn't add a link. I think the answer here "don't do that, then" -- > i.e., you have to write this in a different way to help the DWIM logic. >=20 > So I'm re-closing this as a "wontfix". That's just saying that you haven't found an easy solution. It's not saying that there's no bug or that it can't be fixed. I think there's more in this bug thread than your latest recipe for reproducing what you think the problem is. But I won't insist on that perception. The priority shouldn't be to close bugs. It should be to report bugs, so they can perhaps be fixed by someone who has the interest and energy. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:24:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9445: bug#24842: [External] : Re: bug#24842: 24.5; `help-make-xrefs': False link-type determinations Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 9445@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 24842@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 9445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9445.16449523416495 (code B ref 9445); Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:13:02 +0000 Received: (at 9445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2022 19:12:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46449 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nK3FM-0001gc-RF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:12:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nK3FK-0001g1-4G; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:12:18 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=35556 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nK3FD-00043a-IB; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:12:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Usy5Baa+EAn3KdZf5HllY8hSkaUqshVDiADZQWqjbCQ=; b=dkPpDtm/7drg sOL7V5lSgn+W0gABu930I64wIzWSnjT0xDed6QsfXFbIncyFQy+54guuY2X+2ogsOGCVuJfghElCf Ou7GhbXEE4gvWSGpPZM7o31ifEzsKnDQRNxSZS5j8KAFWpXVEcKVEzBJMRVfY8PnUb/f5fyI8nIjr UASrGMSjq9w2MXhoHtnf1RSJWx1VGBlVDwhxzEI6EcQq/UqLhknP0xcH+PflhcglQ22mmSzP1gLd1 psU0vkAYpCkMitUm/cJEmDENpuBO5AasdHoirG7QnECUYmw2juYquKx3lluXgAjc0LEES4Up4kXvc QxqijaLNqJJ+TNaQIGtOPg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3774 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nK3FC-0005vc-Uh; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:12:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 21:12:13 +0200 Message-Id: <83sfsk2bci.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:58:01 +0000) References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <87pmtk9sgb.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnnsgogn.fsf@rub.de> <87bl5488k7.fsf@gnus.org> <871r04pg09.fsf_-_@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Drew Adams > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:58:01 +0000 > Cc: "9445@debbugs.gnu.org" <9445@debbugs.gnu.org>, > "24842@debbugs.gnu.org" <24842@debbugs.gnu.org> > > The priority shouldn't be to close bugs. It > should be to report bugs, so they can perhaps > be fixed by someone who has the interest and > energy. It makes no sense to keep bugs open for years without anyone picking up the gauntlet. After so many years it is quite reasonable to assume that no one is interested enough to work on this. 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From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:24:08 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9445: bug#24842: [External] : Re: bug#24842: 24.5; `help-make-xrefs': False link-type determinations Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9445 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 9445@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, 24842@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 9445-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9445.164495362917514 (code B ref 9445); Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 9445) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2022 19:33:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46501 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nK3a9-0004YL-3s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:33:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33932) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nK3a4-0004Xz-Qu; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:33:48 -0500 Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=36148 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nK3Zu-000798-7R; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:33:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=uyTl/ctczVC0momimdKB4ab2o2DAnNKBoF+kZGGkt1Q=; b=R8+8fI3AiaDL ayVdrwelFhY1rQfm0dTRfLbyhL0W5yS2jZZ8AEBRkZ02bpK5NEzpEY6FB5Y5Mzf0lh1g8u9oP3lYg eET4irhspP5cQJSXeBbJUymXrnho4x7Ijnjmy9fJZ7Q6i8haWOECVAyMxa2gfitAPbgfFU38gS8vC X2Ywe/yGopR/bQFskBo4ml2WQS9lgwVQDDd3lcfRZPRp7QY0JjjNLeNqtrNW/UkVi2gJyl+ReFFgC l+hhpH5iOF4W6/AqUUUaLHulV+v9qyO9Rl/kQfBJByMPK/MMjNFw0CGb+0CIDf4k4yZViiV29Rnkt 0n7tt3bSPHiRvwdj30X64Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1108 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nK3Zt-0006Eq-7p; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:33:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 21:33:35 +0200 Message-Id: <83pmnn3oxc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:22:00 +0000) References: <919e40a4-f6c4-492d-b50f-b0671e13cb60@default> <87pmtk9sgb.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnnsgogn.fsf@rub.de> <87bl5488k7.fsf@gnus.org> <871r04pg09.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <83sfsk2bci.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Drew Adams > CC: "larsi@gnus.org" , > "stephen.berman@gmx.net" > , > "9445@debbugs.gnu.org" <9445@debbugs.gnu.org>, > "24842@debbugs.gnu.org" <24842@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:22:00 +0000 > Accept-Language: en-US > > > > The priority shouldn't be to close bugs. It > > > should be to report bugs, so they can perhaps > > > be fixed by someone who has the interest and > > > energy. > > > > It makes no sense to keep bugs open for years without anyone picking > > up the gauntlet. After so many years it is quite reasonable to assume > > that no one is interested enough to work on this. > > And the reason is? No reason given. I just gave it, above. > Just what is the cost of leaving confirmed bugs > open? It's a cost to the project maintenance to have open bugs that no one works on. > Just what is the benefit of closing them > (apart perhaps from showing fewer in a report)? The benefit is to have a manageable number of bugs that we really want to fix. > "It makes no sense" and "it is quite reasonable", > themselves make little sense Perhaps for you. But this is not your call and not your responsibility. 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