From unknown Sun Aug 10 11:49:15 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#9405 <9405@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#9405 <9405@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: `gnus-home-directory' docs needs admonition about .gnus Reply-To: bug#9405 <9405@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 18:49:15 +0000 retitle 9405 `gnus-home-directory' docs needs admonition about .gnus reassign 9405 gnus submitter 9405 Dave Abrahams severity 9405 normal tag 9405 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 30 05:16:49 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2011 09:16:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QyKR7-0006aa-DB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:16:49 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f47.google.com ([209.85.210.47]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QyKR4-0006aS-RI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:16:47 -0400 Received: by pzk2 with SMTP id 2so9681287pzk.20 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.180.21 with SMTP id c21mr2772028wff.160.1314695619254; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.local (92-52-237-24.gci.net. [24.237.52.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h4sm4337634pbt.10.2011.08.30.02.13.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 88F6BDB4E89; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:13:38 -0800 (AKDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: `gnus-home-directory' docs needs admonition about .gnus X-Debbugs-Version: 5.110018 X-Debbugs-Package: gnus Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:13:38 -0800 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) ,----[ C-h v gnus-directory RET ] | | Note that Gnus is mostly loaded when the `.gnus.el' file is read. | This means that other directory variables that are initialized from | this variable won't be set properly if you set this variable in `.gnus.el'. | Set this variable in `.emacs' instead. `---- Since the default for `gnus-directory' comes from `gnus-home-directory', the same admonition applies to the latter variable, and should be added to its docstring. No Gnus v0.18 GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.8.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0 AppKit 1038.36) of 2011-07-31 on vulcan 200 Leafnode NNTP Daemon, version 1.11.8 running at localhost (my fqdn: pluto.boostpro.com) 500 Unknown command -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 31 04:24:43 2011 Received: (at 9405) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2011 08:24:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qyg6E-0005rG-5s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 04:24:43 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f47.google.com ([209.85.210.47]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qyg6B-0005r6-Fs for 9405@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 04:24:41 -0400 Received: by pzk2 with SMTP id 2so859460pzk.20 for <9405@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.27.101 with SMTP id s5mr182099pbg.197.1314778886697; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.local (92-52-237-24.gci.net. [24.237.52.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f6sm9541357pbp.2.2011.08.31.01.21.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id CB3EADC1C46; Wed, 31 Aug 2011 00:21:23 -0800 (AKDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: 9405@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#9405: Acknowledgement (`gnus-home-directory' docs needs admonition about .gnus) References: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 00:21:23 -0800 In-Reply-To: (GNU bug Tracking System's message of "Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:17:01 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9405 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) The same observation applies to `message-directory'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 04 10:20:24 2011 Received: (at 9405) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2011 14:20:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0DYd-0007js-Q2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:20:24 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0DYZ-0007jN-PY for 9405@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:20:20 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R0DUz-00076n-61; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:16:37 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: `gnus-home-directory' docs needs admonition about .gnus In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:13:38 -0800") Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:13:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Genesis's _The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (1)_: "Back In N.Y.C." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1R0DUz-00076n-61 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1315750597.29554@73JpKySnwpG1ud4kL78HDQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9405 Cc: 9405@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: > Since the default for `gnus-directory' comes from `gnus-home-directory', > the same admonition applies to the latter variable, and should be added > to its docstring. Ok; fixed. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 04 10:20:25 2011 Received: (at 9405) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2011 14:20:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0DYe-0007jv-JM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:20:24 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0DYa-0007jY-SH for 9405@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:20:21 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R0DV0-00076u-6H; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:16:38 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9405: Acknowledgement (`gnus-home-directory' docs needs admonition about .gnus) In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Wed, 31 Aug 2011 00:21:23 -0800") Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:13:50 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Genesis's _The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (1)_: "Back In N.Y.C." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1R0DV0-00076u-6H X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1315750598.46377@RUnVHEaD2lCbXAFWiArZgg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9405 Cc: 9405@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: > The same observation applies to `message-directory'. That would be inappropriate, since Message is used outside of Gnus. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 04 10:20:14 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2011 14:20:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0DYU-0007j6-KH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:20:14 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0DYS-0007iz-JR for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:20:13 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R0DUs-00076G-7G for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:16:30 +0200 Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:13:57 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #9405 X-MailScanner-ID: 1R0DUs-00076G-7G X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1315750590.48271@NqfBqtPfrZGuOsG4oykmpw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) tags 9405 fixed close 9405 24.1 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 04 11:21:04 2011 Received: (at 9405) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2011 15:21:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0EVM-0003QR-Ih for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:21:04 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f47.google.com ([209.85.210.47]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R0EVK-0003QK-R5 for 9405@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:21:03 -0400 Received: by pzk2 with SMTP id 2so6363129pzk.20 for <9405@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 08:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.29.66 with SMTP id i2mr5981094pbh.375.1315149445774; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 08:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.local (92-52-237-24.gci.net. [24.237.52.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m1sm15011089pbf.3.2011.09.04.08.17.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 04 Sep 2011 08:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 5C248E11158; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 07:17:22 -0800 (AKDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#9405: Acknowledgement (`gnus-home-directory' docs needs admonition about .gnus) References: Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 07:17:22 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:13:50 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9405 Cc: 9405@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) on Sun Sep 04 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >> The same observation applies to `message-directory'. > > That would be inappropriate, since Message is used outside of Gnus. Sorry, I must've been unclear. I meant, the "corresponding observation:" `message-directory' must be set before message is loaded. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 10 14:46:24 2011 Received: (at 9405) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2011 18:46:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2SZM-0000NI-6m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:46:24 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2SZB-0000Kr-3c for 9405@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:46:14 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2SV1-0003Gz-F7; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:41:55 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9405: Acknowledgement (`gnus-home-directory' docs needs admonition about .gnus) In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Sun, 04 Sep 2011 07:17:22 -0800") Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:35:42 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEWYtKYNDhc+XH8UGy4l Nk8KBwsHAgS2QD4iAAACUElEQVQ4jVWTQZrbIAyF+egcoBSTtUs4QBnsWWdA7Z5x5H0W5v5H6BPB 7QyLOOhH0pMEKi3kZ62VUnpWn1cHXn+x+RN47XH6HyxmOj2UkBNcHW80A+QBxtKReVq3Drzy3p/g xXC96TeVaIBBdDHVzuqlg1l50B5Mh2JMFiUpd6CfQPugY5pF8TLOhixb77OKi+/AfwFhVsGL538g P7OnIaGDs4SbDoGeO2hcnubZ98qvlEnKhecScu8FpM9afUskmT2RmuYRifxtBsg9A4B9du/Xrdzw +Rl914RQ9jZc6BVKYyzGSn9IGTmoKZrXmNU1uii960BKD8wuu+oBJsqI5IsyFhP0jn+8OJ4o2SV1 uQLEBYP5yXwv7zn0OkJUJiUBk16Zt4gGSh0hGZWeAPNkrrHWCYFlJgCEJKsTwKbiHhClOADR2u0s H4SA3cj1IcrRJMs1Rd4PY8TuMHNaqKS3Y2/N4FAheFgTAXDaRLtu7g87txnHj2ojPHzI9I5oH/k3 7sqd296OilCIZyB0MV0wP9o+QBeFPGkpJdlYWQALwFoKMrt2h8KUylJikkEJKa0h9Ob6edRazYIm SkVNyAZNxslfFIPkAKvsmnXYLBRWSQIAl7cODLtq5Tb49QSXDiLXymxBrh3Af+8gwZrcUZf5ytyB aSNU3XxET2r8CpwASk78WVUzJLYDr3WS6bFo72AfYL9jsCUKaJ9Ac3vFXQjx6SHNPQFv8ozCKm1U aCS3E3zI5fN6vfCuZAgDXB7f+0vV63F0MOxtf9wzXpYKl+NwfwEfVM0+w/+lhAAAAABJRU5ErkJg gg== X-Now-Playing: Various's _Bustin' Out 1983: New Wave To New Beat Volume 3_: "The Unknown Cases - Masimbabele" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1R2SV1-0003Gz-F7 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1316284915.64285@shzOak2aFAovhIQn/sdKkw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9405 Cc: 9405@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: > Sorry, I must've been unclear. I meant, the "corresponding > observation:" `message-directory' must be set before message is loaded. Oddly enough, `message-directory' doesn't seem to be used much by Message -- it's just used to initialise `message-auto-save-directory'. It's used a lot by various bits of Gnus, though. So I don't think any warning there is warranted. People should just set it in .emacs.el as usual, and things will work fine. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Sun Aug 10 11:49:15 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator