GNU bug report logs - #9395
[Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]

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Reported by: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>

Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:08:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Tags: fixed

Found in version 5.110018

Fixed in version 24.4

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys)
Subject: [Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 10:04:18 -0800

I just found this setting which I _almost_ love.  The only problem with
it is that when there's no attribution line for each and every cited
section some of them disappear altogether, which can make it very
confusing to read.  I'd like it if I could always show at least one
line, say, with an ellipsis to show that there's more.



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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 9395 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9395: [Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:28:47 +0200

Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

> I just found this setting which I _almost_ love.  The only problem with
> it is that when there's no attribution line for each and every cited
> section some of them disappear altogether, which can make it very
> confusing to read. 

Do you have an example?

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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 9395 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9395: [Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 07:09:55 -0800

on Sun Sep 04 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi-AT-gnus.org> wrote:

> Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:
>
>> I just found this setting which I _almost_ love.  The only problem with
>> it is that when there's no attribution line for each and every cited
>> section some of them disappear altogether, which can make it very
>> confusing to read. 
>
> Do you have an example?

Right now, no [I've switched to using `gnus-treat-hide-citation' instead
because it has semantics closer to what I want.]  I have seen numerous
ones of the following form:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Joe Plotz said:
> something he
> said

with which I disagree

> some more that he said

with which I also disagree
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

There was nothing indicating the presence of a citation after the first
one.



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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 9395 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9395: [Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:38:05 +0200

Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

>> Do you have an example?
>
> Right now, no [I've switched to using `gnus-treat-hide-citation' instead
> because it has semantics closer to what I want.]  I have seen numerous
> ones of the following form:
> Joe Plotz said:
>> something he
>> said
>
> with which I disagree
>
>> some more that he said
>
> with which I also disagree
> There was nothing indicating the presence of a citation after the first
> one.

Do you have an example of a message that the commands hides improperly?

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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 9395 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9395: [Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 05:06:06 -0400

on Sat Sep 10 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi-AT-gnus.org> wrote:

> Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:
>
>>> Do you have an example?
>>
>> Right now, no [I've switched to using `gnus-treat-hide-citation' instead
>> because it has semantics closer to what I want.]  I have seen numerous
>> ones of the following form:
>> Joe Plotz said:
>>> something he
>>> said
>>
>> with which I disagree
>>
>>> some more that he said
>>
>> with which I also disagree
>> There was nothing indicating the presence of a citation after the first
>> one.
>
> Do you have an example of a message that the commands hides improperly?

No, I'm afraid I don't have anything I can reproduce anymore.  Might as
well close this one; sorry for the noise.

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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 9395 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9395: [Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 06:26:55 -0400

on Sun Sep 11 2011, Dave Abrahams <dave-AT-boostpro.com> wrote:

> No, I'm afraid I don't have anything I can reproduce anymore.  Might as
> well close this one; sorry for the noise.

Belay that order!  I have found an example for you, which I'll send to
you directly because I'd like to get the other correspondent's
permission before I make it completely public.

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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 9395 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9395: [Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:10:00 +0200

Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

> Belay that order!  I have found an example for you, which I'll send to
> you directly because I'd like to get the other correspondent's
> permission before I make it completely public.

Did you see the bug with -maybe or without?

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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 9395 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9395: [Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:06:41 -0400

on Sun Sep 11 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi-AT-gnus.org> wrote:

> Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:
>
>> Belay that order!  I have found an example for you, which I'll send to
>> you directly because I'd like to get the other correspondent's
>> permission before I make it completely public.
>
> Did you see the bug with -maybe or without?

With -maybe.  `gnus-treat-hide-citation-maybe' was t and
`gnus-treat-hide-citation' was nil.

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 9395 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9395: [Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:56:31 +0100

Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

>>> Belay that order!  I have found an example for you, which I'll send to
>>> you directly because I'd like to get the other correspondent's
>>> permission before I make it completely public.
>>
>> Did you see the bug with -maybe or without?
>
> With -maybe.  `gnus-treat-hide-citation-maybe' was t and
> `gnus-treat-hide-citation' was nil.

It's been a year since this.  :-)  Did you get the text that made the
bug reproducible?

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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 9395 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9395: [Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:03:07 -0500

on Tue Dec 25 2012, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi-AT-gnus.org> wrote:

> Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:
>
>>>> Belay that order!  I have found an example for you, which I'll send to
>>>> you directly because I'd like to get the other correspondent's
>>>> permission before I make it completely public.
>>>
>>> Did you see the bug with -maybe or without?
>>
>> With -maybe.  `gnus-treat-hide-citation-maybe' was t and
>> `gnus-treat-hide-citation' was nil.
>
> It's been a year since this.  :-)  Did you get the text that made the
> bug reproducible?

Yes, as noted in the thread I sent it to you privately because other
correspondents were involved.  I'll send it again.

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Message #35 received at 9395 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 9395 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9395: [Feature Request] gnus-treat-hide-citation[-maybe]
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:41:12 +0100

I've now altered the -maybe function to use the non-maybe hiding logic.

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