From unknown Tue Aug 19 07:26:45 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#9382 <9382@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#9382 <9382@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Need an option for the default forwarding method Reply-To: bug#9382 <9382@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 14:26:45 +0000 retitle 9382 Need an option for the default forwarding method reassign 9382 gnus submitter 9382 Dave Abrahams severity 9382 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 26 18:12:22 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Aug 2011 22:12:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qx4dR-0000uo-EH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:12:22 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f47.google.com ([209.85.210.47]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qx4dO-0000uf-Bv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:12:19 -0400 Received: by pzk2 with SMTP id 2so4751525pzk.20 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.93.4 with SMTP id v4mr746413wfl.389.1314396570293; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.local (92-52-237-24.gci.net. [24.237.52.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x6sm3892494pba.5.2011.08.26.15.09.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4CBB4D60301; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:09:27 -0800 (AKDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: Need an option for the default forwarding method X-Debbugs-Version: 5.110018 X-Debbugs-Package: gnus Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:09:27 -0800 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) If I don't want to do simple inlining, the default prefix argument (nil) for gnus-summary-mail-forward results in attachments that are unreadable on iPhones and iPads. They don't seem to like multipart/alternative. Any of the other prefix arguments (1-5) will work, with 2 and 3 giving the results I like best. I don't want to have to use a prefix every time just to make sure my forwarded messages are received. It would be nice if `message-forward-as-mime' could have more options that would let me choose different mime forwarding by default, or if there were some other mechanism to make the prefix unneeded. No Gnus v0.18 GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.8.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0 AppKit 1038.36) of 2011-07-31 on vulcan 200 Leafnode NNTP Daemon, version 1.11.8 running at localhost (my fqdn: pluto.boostpro.com) 500 Unknown command -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 10 20:08:56 2011 Received: (at 9382-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2011 00:08:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2XbT-0005Gn-DH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:08:56 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2XbQ-0005Gf-JV for 9382-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:08:53 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2XX8-0002s5-Vr; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 02:04:27 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:09:27 -0800") Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 02:01:23 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEX9//v6+/shFRi4tsYZ BAw8LjA0JihOQkh3c4f////W11QpAAACTUlEQVQ4jV2TvW/jIBjGkW7KVuSlXS3HnSOGeEYkt58O 3BkVsp+O4PWKInuMlSn/7T0vOGlaD1XDj/d5vx4Y4/yJnZ+qMQYdk+im/I2G8Wv+fsSodb+AGINh /wq4IMAvgM49S3dgfC+qjs6j9v4zQhv/BjAG3dP/7KWAim69bXgXjYaq1mxVwDNSuPQyV1QSknwB BwIi5x/jV7DhQojSyR3EDKpbI98iRAkYbV3fwGU0/jARQMjYKMXK+XXeEkglwXfglgHGowJYpGZx QkQ510Z9RnDe+SEDNGc/wSyul+OUKwraPIAzR5apo2lo5+sHKXxUZ+yxR2ygtQ/gGQHBmXdZ0/cA KoFVe2+lkg99UFlUkvF0/Z5jRfe3cZji0WNOzR3kv1v7Gkkqny+d81UGawCbhW4RnDa/NesYfBEi MONwfqI+wgEd2BtYVWIB1Yl8k6UkgS69ZHCuxgMZCmLq5y9skG+uWY6LjixoCeyCve+DwziYrG9t axXKWwD5CeuGVF23vl5HTRadcR8egNWDt2qPkvewT/bu4rPuiFIl8sgYCPAr3J8A0om6buumgJlz UVyQOm8b2TZKRo8nyMvEp+AG8QEtABUyKAaPx3ZIW9usnfEt3iCnBqYhGxnpg3nF1o02LLs10Lsj kMbYOGNRGYExoCnf9nFA+kiF7TLo/uQ5S4eYAQC5d64m8DsD1eo+9Imcrva1YqjnfQEOj3WYCGAy rLyGGzB9joccw48FSAIufdC4AOCXRmUkW+e0H0aSAsAuG7kATVrTXyRv1H+0d7OyVpxpRAAAAABJ RU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Aidan Baker's _Still Life_: "Refuge from Oblivion" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1R2XX8-0002s5-Vr X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1316304267.19341@ojNNKekhWa8Rs9N9GJhCzg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382-close Cc: 9382-close@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: > If I don't want to do simple inlining, the default prefix argument (nil) > for gnus-summary-mail-forward results in attachments that are unreadable > on iPhones and iPads. They don't seem to like multipart/alternative. > Any of the other prefix arguments (1-5) will work, with 2 and 3 giving > the results I like best. I don't want to have to use a prefix every > time just to make sure my forwarded messages are received. It would be > nice if `message-forward-as-mime' could have more options that would let > me choose different mime forwarding by default, or if there were some > other mechanism to make the prefix unneeded. Option 2 is literally: ((eq arg 2) (setq message-forward-as-mime t message-forward-show-mml nil)) So you can just set those variables to get that action without using a prefix. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 11 03:47:44 2011 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2011 07:47:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2elT-00047K-CT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:47:44 -0400 Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.220.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2elR-00047D-2d for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:47:42 -0400 Received: by vxj14 with SMTP id 14so1051350vxj.3 for <9382@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.107.106 with SMTP id hb10mr98726vdb.459.1315727006332; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.local (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q1sm5843234vdj.18.2011.09.11.00.43.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 955DFE75A0D; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:43:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) References: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:43:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: (GNU bug Tracking System's message of "Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:09:02 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) on Sat Sep 10 2011, help-debbugs-AT-gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) wrote: > Option 2 is literally: > > ((eq arg 2) > (setq message-forward-as-mime t > message-forward-show-mml nil)) > > So you can just set those variables to get that action without using a > prefix. Hmm. I'm looking at the docs for message-forward-show-mml and it sounds like that variable just affects what I see when I look at forwarded messages... but if that were the case it wouldn't have any bearing on what the recipient sees. Maybe that doc needs a tweak? -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 12 00:29:32 2011 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2011 04:29:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2y9E-0001Ey-9n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:29:32 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2y9C-0001Ep-2M for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:29:31 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2y4t-0002rf-SU; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 06:25:03 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:43:24 -0400") Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 06:21:55 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Various's _Jonny_: "Peaches - Jonny" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1R2y4t-0002rf-SU X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1316406304.03675@sOgVxd0lqGgvU3J4bIhTNg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: > on Sat Sep 10 2011, help-debbugs-AT-gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) wrote: > >> Option 2 is literally: >> >> ((eq arg 2) >> (setq message-forward-as-mime t >> message-forward-show-mml nil)) >> >> So you can just set those variables to get that action without using a >> prefix. > > Hmm. > > I'm looking at the docs for message-forward-show-mml and it sounds like > that variable just affects what I see when I look at forwarded > messages... but if that were the case it wouldn't have any bearing on > what the recipient sees. Maybe that doc needs a tweak? As far as I can tell, the difference between (say) 2 and 4 is: if ARG is 2, forward message as an rfc822 MIME section; if ARG is 4, forward message directly inline; where the difference is `message-forward-show-mml' t or nil, is just how it's displayed before you send it. So I think the doc is correct? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Tue Aug 19 07:26:45 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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[207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dk2sm48770610qab.12.2012.02.01.09.19.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3900A240ABA5; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:19:51 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Abrahams To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: unarchive 9382 Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:19:51 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) unarchive 9382 -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 01 12:22:15 2012 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2012 17:22:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49436 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rsdss-0004Nd-Ax for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:22:14 -0500 Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172]:50799) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rsdsp-0004NK-DT for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:22:12 -0500 Received: by qcsg13 with SMTP id g13so791356qcs.3 for <9382@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:21:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.136.19 with SMTP id p19mr10462900qct.133.1328116903990; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bd19sm13074715qab.17.2012.02.01.09.21.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 948AE240AC55; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:21:43 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 12 Sep 2011 06:21:55 +0200") References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (darwin) Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:21:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) on Mon Sep 12 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >> on Sat Sep 10 2011, help-debbugs-AT-gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) wrote: >> >>> Option 2 is literally: >>> >>> ((eq arg 2) >>> (setq message-forward-as-mime t >>> message-forward-show-mml nil)) >>> >>> So you can just set those variables to get that action without using a >>> prefix. >> >> Hmm. >> >> I'm looking at the docs for message-forward-show-mml and it sounds like >> that variable just affects what I see when I look at forwarded >> messages... but if that were the case it wouldn't have any bearing on >> what the recipient sees. Maybe that doc needs a tweak? > > As far as I can tell, the difference between (say) 2 and 4 is: > > if ARG is 2, forward message as an rfc822 MIME section; > if ARG is 4, forward message directly inline; > > where the difference is `message-forward-show-mml' t or nil, is just how > it's displayed before you send it. So I think the doc is correct? I'm referring to this: *Non-nil means show forwarded messages as MML (decoded from MIME). It's not a matter of how they're "shown," but how they're represented/enclosed in the new message. The rest of the text doesn't do anything to disabuse the reader of the impression that it's a display-only thing. Otherwise, forwarded messages are unchanged. Can also be the symbol `best' to indicate that MML should be used, except when it is a bad idea to use MML. One example where it is a bad idea is when forwarding a signed or encrypted message, because converting MIME to MML would invalidate the digital signature. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From unknown Tue Aug 19 07:26:45 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:41:01 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 02 05:34:35 2012 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2012 10:34:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49980 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rstzv-0008AW-A8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 05:34:35 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:32810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rstzt-0008AN-4E for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 05:34:34 -0500 Received: from 93-41-188-50.ip82.fastwebnet.it ([93.41.188.50] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RstzI-0000ph-Rs; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:33:57 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) References: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:33:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:21:43 -0500") Message-ID: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130002 (Ma Gnus v0.2) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1RstzI-0000ph-Rs X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1328783637.36795@jC2vGn57g4+PrMU+/a/CYQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Dave Abrahams writes: > I'm referring to this: > > *Non-nil means show forwarded messages as MML (decoded from MIME). > > It's not a matter of how they're "shown," but how they're > represented/enclosed in the new message. The rest of the text doesn't > do anything to disabuse the reader of the impression that it's a > display-only thing. It is virtually only a display-only thing. If `message-forward-show-mml' is nil, the Message buffer will show the raw MIME message, as it'll be shown after forwarding. If non-nil, it'll decode the MIME to MML, and then (of course) re-encode to MIME again when sending. Unless I misunderstand what you're saying... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Sent from my Rome From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 02 14:33:24 2012 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2012 19:33:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51265 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rt2PH-0005eS-V6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:33:23 -0500 Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.213.172]:62857) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rt2PD-0005eE-26 for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:33:19 -0500 Received: by yenm3 with SMTP id m3so1230278yen.3 for <9382@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.78.193 with SMTP id g41mr6281609yhe.25.1328211161017; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.29.207.93] ([166.205.14.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o50sm5169374yhl.9.2012.02.02.11.32.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:32:39 -0800 (PST) References: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:32:34 -0600 To: Lars Ingebrigtsen X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: "9382@debbugs.gnu.org" <9382@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) If it were truly display-only, it couldn't have any effect on the ability of= an iOS user to read the attachment. But it does.=20 BoostPro Computing * http://boostpro.com [Sent from coveted but awkward mobile device] -- On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: >=20 >> I'm referring to this: >>=20 >> *Non-nil means show forwarded messages as MML (decoded from MIME). >>=20 >> It's not a matter of how they're "shown," but how they're >> represented/enclosed in the new message. The rest of the text doesn't >> do anything to disabuse the reader of the impression that it's a >> display-only thing. >=20 > It is virtually only a display-only thing. If > `message-forward-show-mml' is nil, the Message buffer will show the raw > MIME message, as it'll be shown after forwarding. If non-nil, it'll > decode the MIME to MML, and then (of course) re-encode to MIME again > when sending. >=20 > Unless I misunderstand what you're saying... >=20 > --=20 > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Sent from my Rome From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 08 19:52:38 2012 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2012 00:52:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32970 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RvIFZ-0002Dv-BB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:52:38 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:50051) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RvIFW-0002Dl-3h for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:52:35 -0500 Received: from 93-41-188-50.ip82.fastwebnet.it ([93.41.188.50] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RvIEM-0007a7-Cr; Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:51:22 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) References: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:51:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> (Dave Abrahams's message of "Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:32:34 -0600") Message-ID: <87fwekg77c.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130002 (Ma Gnus v0.2) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1RvIEM-0007a7-Cr X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1329353482.63557@UjSW2JJtChKkj/D+USn3rA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Dave Abrahams writes: > If it were truly display-only, it couldn't have any effect on the > ability of an iOS user to read the attachment. But it does. Sounds like a bug. Could you gzip up the original message and the messages after its been through MML so that I can try to see what goes wrong when encoding? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Sent from my Rome From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 08 20:51:16 2012 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2012 01:51:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32985 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RvJAG-0003dm-0Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:51:16 -0500 Received: from mail-tul01m020-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:50108) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RvJA9-0003dF-Fx for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:51:09 -0500 Received: by obbwd15 with SMTP id wd15so1619345obb.3 for <9382@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:49:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.139.104 with SMTP id qx8mr13776186obb.69.1328752194093; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:49:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.68.102 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:49:34 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [67.52.71.140] In-Reply-To: <87fwekg77c.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> <87fwekg77c.fsf@gnus.org> From: Dave Abrahams Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:49:34 -1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > Sounds like a bug. =A0Could you gzip up the original message and the > messages after its been through MML so that I can try to see what goes > wrong when encoding? I could try, but specific instructions would be very helpful, so I know I'm giving you the right thing. --=20 Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 11 10:54:22 2012 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2012 15:54:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36326 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RwFHH-0001XI-0N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:54:22 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:54012) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RwFHB-0001X6-4r for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:54:18 -0500 Received: from 93-41-188-50.ip82.fastwebnet.it ([93.41.188.50] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RwFFk-0008Ob-Qx; Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:52:45 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) References: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> <87fwekg77c.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:52:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:49:34 -1000") Message-ID: <87ty2xbc51.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130002 (Ma Gnus v0.2) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: 1RwFFk-0008Ob-Qx X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1329580365.52692@ksSY+ddGCnUpTwVYerbCYg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Dave Abrahams writes: > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> >> Sounds like a bug. =A0Could you gzip up the original message and the >> messages after its been through MML so that I can try to see what goes >> wrong when encoding? > > I could try, but specific instructions would be very helpful, so I > know I'm giving you the right thing. Save the original message to a file, and then save the message generated by Message. gzip the files. Forward them to me. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Sent from my Rome From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 11 13:16:23 2012 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2012 18:16:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36370 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RwHUh-0004if-E6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:16:23 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f44.google.com ([209.85.210.44]:42868) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RwHUc-0004iN-2h for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:16:18 -0500 Received: by dakl33 with SMTP id l33so2951831dak.3 for <9382@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.191.165 with SMTP id gz5mr18284457pbc.59.1328984086344; Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:14:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from pluto.localhost (cpe-75-85-147-115.hawaii.res.rr.com. [75.85.147.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i10sm24117691pbg.10.2012.02.11.10.14.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by pluto.localhost (Postfix, from userid 501) id DE57025A725B; Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:14:41 -1000 (HST) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) References: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> <87fwekg77c.fsf@gnus.org> <87ty2xbc51.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:14:41 -1000 In-Reply-To: <87ty2xbc51.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:52:42 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlAKQBHE9CcrQ80dSYf7nY80t2yGTXaRCTZ3nAv3ufYdM20l8U7tn6kkR66367LWh3Czk9O X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) on Sat Feb 11 2012, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >>> >>> Sounds like a bug. =C2=A0Could you gzip up the original message and the >>> messages after its been through MML so that I can try to see what goes >>> wrong when encoding? >> >> I could try, but specific instructions would be very helpful, so I >> know I'm giving you the right thing. > > Save the original message to a file, and then save the message generated > by Message. gzip the files. Forward them to me. Sorry, I mean, I could think of various interpretations of "save the original message to a file" and I am not sure how to see or save "the message generated by Message" If you could clarify those two things, it would help. Thanks, --=20 Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 11 14:00:53 2012 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2012 19:00:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36384 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RwIBo-0005jD-7N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:00:52 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56270) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RwIBk-0005j4-Tw for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:00:50 -0500 Received: from 93-41-188-50.ip82.fastwebnet.it ([93.41.188.50] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RwIAL-0002WW-HC; Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:59:21 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) References: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> <87fwekg77c.fsf@gnus.org> <87ty2xbc51.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:59:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:14:41 -1000") Message-ID: <87fwehfb7d.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130002 (Ma Gnus v0.2) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1RwIAL-0002WW-HC X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1329591562.22089@QvPlNdZ0orS70UV1ETVzMg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Dave Abrahams writes: > Sorry, I mean, I could think of various interpretations of > > "save the original message to a file" Presumably `C-u g' will give you a buffer you can save. > and I am not sure how to see or save "the message generated by Message" Send the message to yourself. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Sent from my Rome From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 10 17:24:25 2012 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2012 21:24:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49396 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHiY4-0007a0-OK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:24:25 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:50706) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHiXz-0007Zp-Um for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:24:23 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHiWq-0000kk-Sh; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:23:08 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) References: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> <87fwekg77c.fsf@gnus.org> <87ty2xbc51.fsf@gnus.org> <87fwehfb7d.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Various's _Minimal Wave Tapes Volume 2_: "Geneva Jacuzzi - The Sleep Room" Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:23:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87fwehfb7d.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:59:18 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1SHiWq-0000kk-Sh X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1334697789.035@mZFCU6aL4AiWGHN7EgAe4g X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >> Sorry, I mean, I could think of various interpretations of >> >> "save the original message to a file" > > Presumably `C-u g' will give you a buffer you can save. > >> and I am not sure how to see or save "the message generated by Message" > > Send the message to yourself. Was there any development here? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 05 14:09:13 2012 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2012 18:09:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40899 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K2K-0001eM-JL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:09:13 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:35658) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K2E-0001eD-QC for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:09:11 -0400 Received: from ip-200-13-149-91.dialup.ice.net ([91.149.13.200] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9K1w-00024A-Ka; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:08:49 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) References: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> <87fwekg77c.fsf@gnus.org> <87ty2xbc51.fsf@gnus.org> <87fwehfb7d.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Isotope 217's _The Unstable Molecule_ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:08:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:23:08 +0200") Message-ID: <87fw6wtk9e.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1T9K1w-00024A-Ka X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1347473329.49416@RWOHpTZjNu3Y+L2SkjpGkw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Dave Abrahams writes: >> >>> Sorry, I mean, I could think of various interpretations of >>> >>> "save the original message to a file" >> >> Presumably `C-u g' will give you a buffer you can save. >> >>> and I am not sure how to see or save "the message generated by Message" >> >> Send the message to yourself. > > Was there any development here? 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[207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o10sm16418130qaj.4.2012.09.17.12.53.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id A685D62B209D; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:53:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) References: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> <87fwekg77c.fsf@gnus.org> <87ty2xbc51.fsf@gnus.org> <87fwehfb7d.fsf@gnus.org> <87fw6wtk9e.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:53:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fw6wtk9e.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:08:45 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkn9vFeD87hU17TOdXiSzl5w8xWbDL4RrL2qP4fjtPdMVX+TAppOosarY3aeuCpsUy4KWRp X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain on Wed Sep 05 2012, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> >>> Dave Abrahams writes: >>> >>>> Sorry, I mean, I could think of various interpretations of >>>> >>>> "save the original message to a file" >>> >>> Presumably `C-u g' will give you a buffer you can save. >>> >>>> and I am not sure how to see or save "the message generated by Message" >>> >>> Send the message to yourself. >> >> Was there any development here? > > Ping? I am no longer able to reproduce the behavior I was seeing on iPad. Only message-forward-as-mime seems to change whether the attachment is properly visible on iOS (it must be nil, or you just get some textual turds). However, when message-forward-as-mime is t, changing message-forward-show-mml does change the (incorrect) appearance of these attachments in iOS. I'm not sure if this is what you wanted, but I've attempted to attach the archive you asked for. 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ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnxSu-0006zJ-R4; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:20:38 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) References: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> <87fwekg77c.fsf@gnus.org> <87ty2xbc51.fsf@gnus.org> <87fwehfb7d.fsf@gnus.org> <87fw6wtk9e.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Winston Tong's _Theoretically Chinese_ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:20:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:53:02 -0400") Message-ID: <878v8ko99r.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1TnxSu-0006zJ-R4 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1357158038.22406@qTLkSNCuIGzpcDl+Nw29tA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Dave Abrahams writes: > I am no longer able to reproduce the behavior I was seeing on iPad. > Only message-forward-as-mime seems to change whether the attachment is > properly visible on iOS (it must be nil, or you just get some textual turds). > However, when message-forward-as-mime is t, changing > message-forward-show-mml does change the (incorrect) appearance of these > attachments in iOS. The only difference in the messages was that there was a Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit in the rfc822 part in one of the messages, and not the other. So whatever is going on, it sounds more like some transient Ios bug than something Gnus controls. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 06 14:16:00 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2013 18:16:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35205 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvX1c-0008Jx-Eq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:16:00 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:46386) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvX1a-0008Jn-J3 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:15:59 -0400 Received: from 46.157.223.218.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.157.223.218] helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UvX1P-000447-Dc for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:15:47 +0200 Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:15:37 +0200 Message-Id: <87hag7k112.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #9382 X-MailScanner-ID: 1UvX1P-000447-Dc X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1373739348.47921@RU+u6odj7Me82UCgccEBvg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 9382 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 06 14:16:03 2013 Received: (at 9382) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2013 18:16:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35207 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvX1d-0008KH-SD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:16:03 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:46380) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvX1Y-0008Ji-C7 for 9382@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:16:00 -0400 Received: from 46.157.223.218.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.157.223.218] helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UvX1L-00043t-60; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:15:43 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#9382: closed (Re: bug#9382: Need an option for the default forwarding method) References: <87ty3934oc.fsf@gnus.org> <83EEA3B1-FEFB-4F40-B718-0537BBDD1949@boostpro.com> <87fwekg77c.fsf@gnus.org> <87ty2xbc51.fsf@gnus.org> <87fwehfb7d.fsf@gnus.org> <87fw6wtk9e.fsf@gnus.org> <878v8ko99r.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:15:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878v8ko99r.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:20:32 +0100") Message-ID: <87ip0nk119.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1UvX1L-00043t-60 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1373739343.56109@KdnEWlWOfknoJfk2EqCadw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9382 Cc: 9382@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > The only difference in the messages was that there was a > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > in the rfc822 part in one of the messages, and not the other. > > So whatever is going on, it sounds more like some transient Ios bug than > something Gnus controls. And don't think there's much more here going on, so I'm closing this report again. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Tue Aug 19 07:26:45 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator