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23.3; [Themes] feature request: separate custom-enabled-themes user setting

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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.3;
	[Themes] feature request: separate custom-enabled-themes user setting
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:09:53 -0800

In my .emacs I am programmatically loading a theme based on system type,
so it has to load a different file depending on the host system, but I
also want to enable some other themes under "user control."
Unfortunately, enabling a theme programmatically modifies the only
customization variable I have, custom-enabled-themes, and I *don't* want
to save that in my customizations that will be used on other systems.
Of course I could remove the theme from that variable manually, but that
seems like a hack; who knows whether the theme system relies on that
variable today, or will tomorrow?

Ideally, there would be a way to enable a theme without altering the
variable that says what themes should be enabled at startup.


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 of 2011-07-31 on vulcan
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regexp-opt easy-mmode paren server ido autorevert time delsel cus-start
cus-load elhome tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel
mac-win tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page
menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock
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backquote mac multi-tty make-network-process emacs)

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com

Message #8 received at 9373 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda <at> gmail.com>
To: 9373 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Subject: Re: bug#9373: 23.3; [Themes] feature request: separate
 custom-enabled-themes user setting
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 07:53:43 -0300

Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

> In my .emacs I am programmatically loading a theme based on system type,
> so it has to load a different file depending on the host system, but I
> also want to enable some other themes under "user control."
> Unfortunately, enabling a theme programmatically modifies the only
> customization variable I have, custom-enabled-themes, and I *don't* want
> to save that in my customizations that will be used on other systems.
> Of course I could remove the theme from that variable manually, but that
> seems like a hack; who knows whether the theme system relies on that
> variable today, or will tomorrow?

That's exactly what use-package does, which I agree is kind of ugly.

Doing that makes it impossible for disable-theme to disable the removed
theme, but maybe users of use-package never need to do that? But I
wonder if there any other use cases where it does matter.

> Ideally, there would be a way to enable a theme without altering the
> variable that says what themes should be enabled at startup.

Yes, maybe there could be a special keyword to pass when defining a
theme, to say that it shouldn't be added to custom-enabled-themes, but
that Custom still knows how to disable, reenable, etc.

Opinions?

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