From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:05:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9349: 24.0.50; Weird text in info buffer Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 9349 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 9349@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.131409701519018 (code B ref -1); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:57:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2011 10:56:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvof8-0004wg-9L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:56:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvof5-0004wZ-Ts for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:56:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvoch-00075q-OT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:54:24 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:53754) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvoch-00075l-Mw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:54:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36791) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvocg-0003Wc-WF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:54:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvocf-00075W-KN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:54:22 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.213.41]:38382) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvocf-00075I-Gg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:54:21 -0400 Received: by ywm13 with SMTP id 13so4320092ywm.0 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:54:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TKzQvX4eZx/nfXSHZ0gMGT8HTQUdLMRAbCZDD/6coS8=; b=gUcb799VjwEkeNVaaBy8sh911hCnzdpxkHCLLvEGu+YOqEoWOte2WYf2gQ9jlFAiqZ h0RQ/bsQHA5EXKdbzvO7QJvEqTXBfEC/WbR2PK2sS9iGKi4OJTRQVhDcpulYmDxE5kfY li7BTFyzO+9iVCUFlz+43o+yMnZo/EldQOmwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.163.9 with SMTP id a9mr3795996icy.345.1314096860494; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.173.198 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:54:20 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dani Moncayo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) >From Emacsc -Q: 1. Open the info node "(elisp)Association List Type". 2. Try to search for the word "see" (C-s see ). Surprisingly, the search fails, even though the word exists in the buffer (beginning of last paragraph). If I move the cursor to that word and type `C-x =', I see: Char: * (42, #o52, #x2a, part of display "*Not..."->"See ") point=123845 of 300271 (41%) <123062-124062> column=3 I don't understand want's going on here, but it seems undesirable to see a word in the buffer and not be able to search for it. -- Dani Moncayo From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:05:43 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Dani Moncayo Subject: bug#9349: closed (Re: bug#9349: 24.0.50; Weird text in info buffer) Message-ID: References: <83aab0id7e.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 9349 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 9349@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:27:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1314098821-26896-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1314098821-26896-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #9349: 24.0.50; Weird text in info buffer which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 9349@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 9349: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D9349 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1314098821-26896-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 9349-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2011 11:26:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvp7L-0006ye-J5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:26:03 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvp7E-0006y8-90 for 9349-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:26:02 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LQD00700MKNL400@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 9349-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:23:26 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.219.41]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LQD007Y5OYQL840@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:23:25 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:23:17 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#9349: 24.0.50; Weird text in info buffer In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Dani Moncayo Message-id: <83aab0id7e.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 9349-done Cc: 9349-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:54:20 +0200 > From: Dani Moncayo > > >From Emacsc -Q: > > 1. Open the info node "(elisp)Association List Type". > 2. Try to search for the word "see" (C-s see ). > > Surprisingly, the search fails, even though the word exists in the > buffer (beginning of last paragraph). No, it doesn't. > If I move the cursor to that word and type `C-x =', I see: > > Char: * (42, #o52, #x2a, part of display "*Not..."->"See ") > point=123845 of 300271 (41%) <123062-124062> column=3 This tells you that the "See" is a display string, and the real text in the buffer is "*Note". The display string "covers" that text, and is therefore displayed in its stead. See the node "Display Property" in the ELisp manual. Set Info-hide-note-references to nil to see the real text. > I don't understand want's going on here, but it seems undesirable to > see a word in the buffer and not be able to search for it. It's a feature. I'm closing the bug. ------------=_1314098821-26896-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2011 10:56:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvof8-0004wg-9L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:56:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvof5-0004wZ-Ts for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:56:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvoch-00075q-OT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:54:24 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:53754) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvoch-00075l-Mw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:54:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36791) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvocg-0003Wc-WF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:54:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvocf-00075W-KN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:54:22 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.213.41]:38382) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvocf-00075I-Gg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:54:21 -0400 Received: by ywm13 with SMTP id 13so4320092ywm.0 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:54:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TKzQvX4eZx/nfXSHZ0gMGT8HTQUdLMRAbCZDD/6coS8=; b=gUcb799VjwEkeNVaaBy8sh911hCnzdpxkHCLLvEGu+YOqEoWOte2WYf2gQ9jlFAiqZ h0RQ/bsQHA5EXKdbzvO7QJvEqTXBfEC/WbR2PK2sS9iGKi4OJTRQVhDcpulYmDxE5kfY li7BTFyzO+9iVCUFlz+43o+yMnZo/EldQOmwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.163.9 with SMTP id a9mr3795996icy.345.1314096860494; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.173.198 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 03:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:54:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: 24.0.50; Weird text in info buffer From: Dani Moncayo To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) >From Emacsc -Q: 1. Open the info node "(elisp)Association List Type". 2. Try to search for the word "see" (C-s see ). Surprisingly, the search fails, even though the word exists in the buffer (beginning of last paragraph). If I move the cursor to that word and type `C-x =', I see: Char: * (42, #o52, #x2a, part of display "*Not..."->"See ") point=123845 of 300271 (41%) <123062-124062> column=3 I don't understand want's going on here, but it seems undesirable to see a word in the buffer and not be able to search for it. -- Dani Moncayo ------------=_1314098821-26896-1-- From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:05:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9349: 24.0.50; Weird text in info buffer Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9349 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dani Moncayo Cc: 9349@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 9349-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9349.13141814733671 (code B ref 9349); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 9349) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2011 10:24:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwAdL-0000x8-1P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 06:24:32 -0400 Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwAdD-0000wu-U2 for 9349@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 06:24:25 -0400 Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF516E806F; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99860451C402; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:21:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Juri Linkov Organization: JURTA References: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:57:00 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Dani Moncayo's message of "Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:54:20 +0200") Message-ID: <87r54bm7uc.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) > 1. Open the info node "(elisp)Association List Type". > 2. Try to search for the word "see" (C-s see ). > > Surprisingly, the search fails, even though the word exists in the > buffer (beginning of last paragraph). If you wanted to search the word "see" to navigate between links then using TAB and S-TAB is an easier way to do the same. Maybe we should consider changing the default value of `Info-hide-note-references' to `hide' that will hide both verbs "*Note" and "See", because nowadays the users of web browsers understand that a blue underlined link implies a standard action to visit it, so no additional invitational verb is necessary. From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:05:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9349: 24.0.50; Weird text in info buffer Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9349 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juri Linkov Cc: 9349@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 9349-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9349.131418358112192 (code B ref 9349); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:00:02 +0000 Received: (at 9349) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2011 10:59:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwBBL-0003AZ-FK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 06:59:40 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.213.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwBB5-0003AC-9m for 9349@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 06:59:38 -0400 Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so720788ywe.3 for <9349@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:56:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=MNdToOI6WQ413Htriphs1zJjb1qJTbwYiP7wB5MLCho=; b=MaGTEH78uoVVBucE+Z1QyUa19FYRTB4iy8aQgq7g5CYe9lokdOG4V351xy1jJsaxvT NoEq2XwttwPcL3qH4LXHLr1RyMv3RYuARQ8AutIb0juqA7/CzEWd7QCQu2pkxk0VL8Ct 4U842uTbc70g8EiC0oK/vskGDy0Hsci7n9Erw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.152.7 with SMTP id g7mr4588130icw.182.1314183409773; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.180.73 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:56:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r54bm7uc.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87r54bm7uc.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:56:49 +0200 Message-ID: From: Dani Moncayo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) Hi Juri, > If you wanted to search the word "see" to navigate between links > then using TAB and S-TAB is an easier way to do the same. Yes, I know. I was not trying to navigate between links (I realized it by a fluke). > Maybe we should consider changing the default value of > `Info-hide-note-references' to `hide' that will hide both verbs > "*Note" and "See", because nowadays the users of web browsers > understand that a blue underlined link implies a standard action > to visit it, so no additional invitational verb is necessary. But if you hide "See", the resulting wording will not make sense. IMO, the problem is that you are seeing text in the buffer (and therefore you think it belongs to the buffer), and yet you can't search for it. Besides, if you try to copy it and paste into another application, you will also get an unexpected result (the pasted text will be the hidden one). -- Dani Moncayo From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:05:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9349: 24.0.50; Weird text in info buffer Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9349 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juri Linkov Cc: 9349@debbugs.gnu.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 9349-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9349.131418573023238 (code B ref 9349); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 9349) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2011 11:35:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwBk2-00062l-6i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:35:30 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwBjz-00062b-D8 for 9349@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:35:28 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LQF00900K0MW400@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 9349@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:32:50 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.219.41]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LQF00975K2PMN50@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:32:50 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:32:53 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87r54bm7uc.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83vctngi3e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r54bm7uc.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > From: Juri Linkov > Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:57:00 +0300 > Cc: 9349@debbugs.gnu.org > > Maybe we should consider changing the default value of > `Info-hide-note-references' to `hide' that will hide both verbs > "*Note" and "See" It would also be nice to have a feature whereby C-s could find matches in display strings, not only in buffer text. From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:05:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9349: 24.0.50; Weird text in info buffer Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9349 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 9349@debbugs.gnu.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com Received: via spool by 9349-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9349.131420122825336 (code B ref 9349); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 9349) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2011 15:53:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwFm0-0006aZ-4l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:53:48 -0400 Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwFlx-0006aQ-Fg for 9349@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:53:46 -0400 Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756946E80A4; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF91451C28D; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:51:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Juri Linkov Organization: JURTA References: <87r54bm7uc.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83vctngi3e.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:32:59 +0300 In-Reply-To: <83vctngi3e.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:32:53 +0300") Message-ID: <878vqjkk8k.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) > It would also be nice to have a feature whereby C-s could find matches > in display strings, not only in buffer text. This won't fix other problems in display strings like copy/paste. I think for Info it would be easier to avoid all these problems by modifying the text in the Info buffer (i.e. replacing "*Note" with "See") instead of putting display properties. This means detaching Info buffers from Info files, not using narrowing, using positions relative to the beginning of the node instead of the beginning of the Info file, etc. From unknown Tue Aug 19 10:05:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9349: 24.0.50; Weird text in info buffer Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:02:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9349 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juri Linkov Cc: 9349@debbugs.gnu.org, dmoncayo@gmail.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 9349-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9349.131420170228712 (code B ref 9349); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:02:03 +0000 Received: (at 9349) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2011 16:01:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwFtd-0007T2-Sm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:01:42 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QwFtb-0007Sn-DB for 9349@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:01:40 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LQF00900UGUXT00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 9349@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:58:25 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.219.41]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LQF00921WDA7GK0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:58:23 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:58:26 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <878vqjkk8k.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83sjoqhkd9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r54bm7uc.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83vctngi3e.fsf@gnu.org> <878vqjkk8k.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: dmoncayo@gmail.com, 9349@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:32:59 +0300 > > > It would also be nice to have a feature whereby C-s could find matches > > in display strings, not only in buffer text. > > This won't fix other problems in display strings like copy/paste. Then let's add that feature as well. One at a time, though ;-)