From unknown Wed Sep 10 19:32:13 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9270: `Non-printable characters found' Resent-From: Dave Abrahams Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 9270 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 9270@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13129056405743 (code B ref -1); Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:01:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2011 16:00:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QqojP-0001Ua-UO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:00:40 -0400 Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.220.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QqojN-0001US-1u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:00:38 -0400 Received: by vxi29 with SMTP id 29so110617vxi.3 for ; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 08:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.97.97 with SMTP id dz1mr7054725vdb.316.1312905567791; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 08:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fc7sm49059vdc.24.2011.08.09.08.59.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 09 Aug 2011 08:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id B3A2C9554DF; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 11:59:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 11:59:25 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) I've recently discovered that messages sent out containing NUL (0) characters (which are common in emacs backtraces) are often truncated at the point of the NUL. I don't think the warning about "non-printable characters" is adequate to that danger. When I see it, I normally think, "who cares? I don't expect anyone to print this!" I suggest either: force-replacing NUL or issuing a different warning about NUL characters and their possible effects. No Gnus v0.18 GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.8.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0 AppKit 1038.36) of 2011-08-01 on vulcan 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) 101 Capability list: VERSION 2 IMPLEMENTATION INN 2.5.1 AUTHINFO USER HDR LIST ACTIVE ACTIVE.TIMES DISTRIB.PATS HEADERS NEWSGROUPS OVERVIEW.FMT OVER POST READER STARTTLS . -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 17 19:54:10 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2011 23:54:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qtpw2-0004z7-AH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:54:10 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qtpw0-0004yz-2o for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:54:08 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qtpu1-0007Qj-Uo for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:52:05 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:51:19 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #9270 X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qtpu1-0007Qj-Uo X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1314229926.44171@K/Cw3o0mMa1+kSoffhwEjw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) tags 9270 fixed close 9270 24.1 From unknown Wed Sep 10 19:32:13 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#9270: `Non-printable characters found' Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9270 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Dave Abrahams Cc: 9270@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 9270-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9270.131362546019500 (code B ref 9270); Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:58:02 +0000 Received: (at 9270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2011 23:57:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QtpzQ-00054N-7J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:57:40 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QtpzE-00053o-Lm for 9270@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:57:32 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QtpxG-0007T2-BN; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:55:26 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Tue, 09 Aug 2011 11:59:25 -0400") Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:50:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Various's _The Wire Tapper 26_: "Contemporary Noise Sexted - Is That Revolution Sad?" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QtpxG-0007T2-BN X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1314230126.66416@mgwuhiHEOLtZymCEaDvlKA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: > I've recently discovered that messages sent out containing NUL (0) > characters (which are common in emacs backtraces) are often truncated at > the point of the NUL. It would be interesting to find out why, by the way. I thought most SMTP servers were pretty 8-bit clean these days... > I don't think the warning about "non-printable > characters" is adequate to that danger. When I see it, I normally > think, "who cares? I don't expect anyone to print this!" > > I suggest either: > > force-replacing NUL or > > issuing a different warning about NUL characters and their possible effects. I've made the warning different. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/