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Gnus dynamic "Date:" should not update every second

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Gnus dynamic "Date:" should not update every second
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:14:42 -0400

,gnusThe dynamic update of relative time on the "Date:" line in the article
buffer is annoying.  Mentioning seconds is largely pointless, and
updating every second is a real problem (e.g. it keeps Emacs busy,
preventing it from being swapped out).  It even occasionally causes
the display to "flicker" because at times the "Date:" line needs
wrapping and at times it doesn't.

I'd be happy to turn off the "feature" altogether, but at least by
default the updates should not take place every second.  If some user
really likes it, then feel free to keep it as an option
"gnus-update-date-obnoxiously", and maybe even provide a sub-second
version "gnus-update-date-for-masochistic-epileptics", of course.


        Stefan




In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2011-08-03 on ceviche
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11002000
configured using `configure  'CFLAGS=-Wall -Wno-pointer-sign -DUSE_LISP_UNION_TYPE -DSYNC_INPUT -DENABLE_CHECKING -DXASSERTS -DFONTSET_DEBUG -g -O1 -I/usr/include/GNUstep' '--enable-maintainer-mode' '--with-x-toolkit=lucid''

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Message #8 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Leo <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9241: Gnus dynamic "Date:" should not update every second
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 02:21:06 +0800

On 2011-08-05 01:14 +0800, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> ,gnusThe dynamic update of relative time on the "Date:" line in the article
> buffer is annoying.  Mentioning seconds is largely pointless, and
> updating every second is a real problem (e.g. it keeps Emacs busy,
> preventing it from being swapped out).  It even occasionally causes
> the display to "flicker" because at times the "Date:" line needs
> wrapping and at times it doesn't.
>
> I'd be happy to turn off the "feature" altogether, but at least by
> default the updates should not take place every second.  If some user
> really likes it, then feel free to keep it as an option
> "gnus-update-date-obnoxiously", and maybe even provide a sub-second
> version "gnus-update-date-for-masochistic-epileptics", of course.

I also customised gnus-article-update-date-headers immediately after
upgrade Gnus. I found the feature exciting at first but then quickly
find it annoying.

Leo

Message #11 received at 9241 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Óscar Fuentes <ofv <at> wanadoo.es>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 9241 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9241: Gnus dynamic "Date:" should not update every second
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:27:17 +0200

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> ,gnusThe dynamic update of relative time on the "Date:" line in the article
> buffer is annoying.

Annoying on the same way animated gifs and flash adverts are on
webpages.

[snip]

> I'd be happy to turn off the "feature" altogether,

Yes, please.

[snip]

Message #18 received at 9241 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 9241 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Gnus dynamic "Date:" should not update every second
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:34:40 +0200

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> The dynamic update of relative time on the "Date:" line in the article
> buffer is annoying. 

I've now switched the default to nil.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/

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