GNU bug report logs - #9117
24.0.50; Document menu keyword `:selected'

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>

Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:25:01 UTC

Severity: minor

Tags: notabug

Found in version 24.0.50

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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bug#9117; Package emacs. (Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:25:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 24.0.50; Document menu keyword `:selected'
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:23:41 -0700
Please document the menu keyword :selected.  Presumably the place for
this would be: `(elisp) Extended Menu Items', along with :visible,
:enable, etc.
 
In particular, document its relation with keywords such as :visible and
:enable - e.g., if not visible then :selected is not evaluated (or
whatever is the truth).
 
For example, I see code such as this in a 3rd-party library, and I
wonder what happens if `ls-lisp-dirs-first' is undefined.  The :visible
sexp here is protected OK (by `ls-lisp-var-p'), but if :selected is
eval'd even when :visible is nil then this would presumably raise an
error.
 
["Ignore Case" dired-sort-menu-toggle-ignore-case :style toggle
    :selected ls-lisp-ignore-case :active t
    :help "Ignore case in alphanumeric sorting"
    ;; supported only by (Emacs 21) ls-lisp library and local dired:
    :visible (ls-lisp-var-p 'ls-lisp-ignore-case)]

["Dirs First" dired-sort-menu-toggle-dirs-first :style toggle
    :selected ls-lisp-dirs-first :active t
    :help "List subdirectories first [last if reversed]"
    ;; supported only by (Emacs 21) ls-lisp library and local dired:
    :visible (ls-lisp-var-p 'ls-lisp-dirs-first)]
 
Anyway, the point is that there seems to be no documentation at all for
:selected, even though it is used in lots of core Lisp code and in
3rd-party code.

In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2011-07-11 on 3249CTO
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags
-Ic:/build/include'
 





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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 9117 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 24.0.50; Document menu keyword `:selected'
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 05:14:20 +0200
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> writes:

> For example, I see code such as this in a 3rd-party library, and I
> wonder what happens if `ls-lisp-dirs-first' is undefined.  The :visible
> sexp here is protected OK (by `ls-lisp-var-p'), but if :selected is
> eval'd even when :visible is nil then this would presumably raise an
> error.
>
> ["Ignore Case" dired-sort-menu-toggle-ignore-case :style toggle
>     :selected ls-lisp-ignore-case :active t
>     :help "Ignore case in alphanumeric sorting"
>     ;; supported only by (Emacs 21) ls-lisp library and local dired:
>     :visible (ls-lisp-var-p 'ls-lisp-ignore-case)]

:selected is, as far as I can tell, an `easy-menu-define' thing, and is
documented there.  I'm not sure `define-key' supports it at all --
anybody know?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/




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bug#9117; Package emacs. (Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:13:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 9117 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 9117 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9117: 24.0.50; Document menu keyword `:selected'
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:12:22 +0200
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> writes:
>
>> For example, I see code such as this in a 3rd-party library, and I
>> wonder what happens if `ls-lisp-dirs-first' is undefined.  The :visible
>> sexp here is protected OK (by `ls-lisp-var-p'), but if :selected is
>> eval'd even when :visible is nil then this would presumably raise an
>> error.
>>
>> ["Ignore Case" dired-sort-menu-toggle-ignore-case :style toggle
>>     :selected ls-lisp-ignore-case :active t
>>     :help "Ignore case in alphanumeric sorting"
>>     ;; supported only by (Emacs 21) ls-lisp library and local dired:
>>     :visible (ls-lisp-var-p 'ls-lisp-ignore-case)]
>
> :selected is, as far as I can tell, an `easy-menu-define' thing, and is
> documented there.  I'm not sure `define-key' supports it at all --
> anybody know?

Doesn't seem like it.  `easy-menu-define' documents :selected, so I
don't think there's anything to fix here.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




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