GNU bug report logs - #9069
(spam-initialize) should be automatic

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Package: gnus;

Reported by: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>

Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:31:03 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: fixed

Found in version 5.110018

Fixed in version 24.4

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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bug#9069; Package gnus. (Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:31:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys)
Subject: (spam-initialize) should be automatic
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:30:49 -0400
...at least in some cases.

I customized my group parameters and set the spam-process-destination to
a different folder, and was absolutely baffled for the longest time as
to why spam never got moved.  It seems to me that Gnus should detect
cases where its own configuration obviously demands the use of spam.el
and initialize it if necessary.



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bug#9069; Package gnus. (Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:42:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: (spam-initialize) should be automatic
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:33:19 +0200
Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

> ...at least in some cases.
>
> I customized my group parameters and set the spam-process-destination to
> a different folder, and was absolutely baffled for the longest time as
> to why spam never got moved.  It seems to me that Gnus should detect
> cases where its own configuration obviously demands the use of spam.el
> and initialize it if necessary.

I agree.

Ted, where would the best place to put this initialisation be?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/




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bug#9069; Package gnus. (Fri, 06 Jan 2012 23:42:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: bug#9069: (spam-initialize) should be automatic
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:37:20 +0100
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:
>
>> ...at least in some cases.
>>
>> I customized my group parameters and set the spam-process-destination to
>> a different folder, and was absolutely baffled for the longest time as
>> to why spam never got moved.  It seems to me that Gnus should detect
>> cases where its own configuration obviously demands the use of spam.el
>> and initialize it if necessary.
>
> I agree.
>
> Ted, where would the best place to put this initialisation be?

Ted, when you find some time, please have a peek at this one.  :-)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/




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bug#9069; Package gnus. (Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:31:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #14 received at 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>, 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9069: (spam-initialize) should be automatic
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:26:39 -0500
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:37:20 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
>> Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:
>> 
>>> ...at least in some cases.
>>> 
>>> I customized my group parameters and set the spam-process-destination to
>>> a different folder, and was absolutely baffled for the longest time as
>>> to why spam never got moved.  It seems to me that Gnus should detect
>>> cases where its own configuration obviously demands the use of spam.el
>>> and initialize it if necessary.
>> 
>> I agree.
>> 
>> Ted, where would the best place to put this initialisation be?

LMI> Ted, when you find some time, please have a peek at this one.  :-)

Sorry for the delay.

Can we do `spam-initialize' on group entry iff the spam group/topic
parameters are set AND it has not been run yet?  Or is that too
intrusive?

Ted




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bug#9069; Package gnus. (Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:45:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #17 received at 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com>
Cc: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>, 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9069: (spam-initialize) should be automatic
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:43:46 +0100
Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com> writes:

> Can we do `spam-initialize' on group entry iff the spam group/topic
> parameters are set AND it has not been run yet?  Or is that too
> intrusive?

I think that would be fine?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no  *  Sent from my Rome




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Message #20 received at 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com>
Cc: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>, 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9069: (spam-initialize) should be automatic
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:53:36 +0100
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com> writes:
>
>> Can we do `spam-initialize' on group entry iff the spam group/topic
>> parameters are set AND it has not been run yet?  Or is that too
>> intrusive?
>
> I think that would be fine?

Have you had time to look at this?  :-)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no  *  Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen




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bug#9069; Package gnus. (Thu, 30 Jan 2014 23:00:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #23 received at 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com>
Cc: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>, 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9069: (spam-initialize) should be automatic
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:58:09 -0800
Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com> writes:

> Can we do `spam-initialize' on group entry iff the spam group/topic
> parameters are set AND it has not been run yet?  Or is that too
> intrusive?

I've now done this.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/




Added tag(s) fixed. Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 30 Jan 2014 23:00:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug marked as fixed in version 24.4, send any further explanations to 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 30 Jan 2014 23:00:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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bug#9069; Package gnus. (Fri, 31 Jan 2014 16:42:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #30 received at 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>, 9069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9069: (spam-initialize) should be automatic
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:43:25 -0500
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:58:09 -0800 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote: 

LI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com> writes:
>> Can we do `spam-initialize' on group entry iff the spam group/topic
>> parameters are set AND it has not been run yet?  Or is that too
>> intrusive?

LI> I've now done this.

Awesome.  Thank you!

Ted




bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 01 Mar 2014 12:24:07 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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