From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:16:26 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#8978 <8978@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#8978 <8978@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: No complete guide to article marks / gnus-summary-line-format underdocumented Reply-To: bug#8978 <8978@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:16:26 +0000 retitle 8978 No complete guide to article marks / gnus-summary-line-format = underdocumented reassign 8978 gnus submitter 8978 Dave Abrahams severity 8978 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 01 13:23:16 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jul 2011 17:23:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QchQu-0002nO-2Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:23:16 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QchQo-0002mr-1X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:23:10 -0400 Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so57010qyk.3 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 10:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.130.3 with SMTP id q3mr2819124qcs.44.1309540979766; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 10:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u15sm2709852qcq.0.2011.07.01.10.22.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jul 2011 10:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1CF355E025A; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 13:22:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: No complete guide to article marks / gnus-summary-line-format underdocumented Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:22:58 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain The docs for gnus-summary-line-format mention that "%U" produces "R", "K", "-", or " ". However, they fail to mention "r", for example. The first clue I could find about that mark was in "9.18.4 Spam and Ham Processors" of all places, where it drops the hint that "r" means "explicit delete" (!). Users *really* need a little table that gives a complete guide to the built-in marks, so that when they look at the summary buffer, they know what it means. Same goes for the other Gnus buffers that support marking, BTW. K and U in the server browsing buffer are confusing as well. Package: gnus Version: 5.110018 No Gnus v0.18 GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.35) of 2011-03-09 on black.porkrind.org 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) 101 Capability list: VERSION 2 IMPLEMENTATION INN 2.5.1 AUTHINFO USER HDR LIST ACTIVE ACTIVE.TIMES DISTRIB.PATS HEADERS NEWSGROUPS OVERVIEW.FMT OVER POST READER STARTTLS . --=-=-= Content-Type: application/emacs-lisp Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: User settings ------------------ Environment follows ------------------ (setq gnus-buffers '(# # # # # = # # # # # # #)) (setq gnus-logo-colors '("#5f5f5f" "#4f4f4f")) (setq gnus-default-nntp-server "") (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "BoostPro" (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com") (nnimap-stream ssl) (nnimap-authenticator login) (nnimap-nov-is-evil t))) (setq gnus-valid-select-methods '(("nntp" post address prompt-address physical-address) ("nnspool" post address) ("nnvirtual" post-mail virtual prompt-address) ("nnmbox" mail respool address) ("nnml" post-mail respool address) ("nnmh" mail respool address) ("nndir" post-mail prompt-address physical-address) ("nneething" none address prompt-address physical-address) ("nndoc" none address prompt-address) ("nnbabyl" mail address respool) ("nndraft" post-mail) ("nnfolder" mail respool address) ("nngateway" post-mail address prompt-address physical-address) ("nnweb" none) ("nnrss" none) ("nnagent" post-mail) ("nnimap" post-mail address prompt-address physical-address respool= server-marks) ("nnmaildir" mail respool address) ("nnnil" none) ("nnir" mail))) (setq gnus-group-change-level-function 'gnus-topic-change-level) (setq gnus-summary-ignore-duplicates t) (setq gnus-summary-mode-hook '(gnus-agent-mode)) (setq gnus-extra-headers '(To Newsgroups X-Spambayes-Classification Reply-To Message-ID Messag= e-Id)) (setq gnus-ignored-from-addresses "^david.abrahams@rcn.com\\|dave@boost\\(-= consulting\\|pro\\).com$") (setq gnus-group-line-format "%M%S%p%P%5y%~(form my-align-gnus-group)@|%B%(= %G%)%O\n") (setq gnus-group-catchup-group-hook '(gnus-topic-update-topic)) (setq gnus-group-update-group-hook '(DE-collapse-group-names)) (setq gnus-group-prepare-hook '(DE-collapse-group-names)) (setq gnus-exit-gnus-hook '(mm-destroy-postponed-undisplay-list)) (setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types '("multipart/signed" "multipart/alternative" "application/msword")) (setq gnus-treat-from-picon 'head) (setq gnus-treat-mail-picon 'head) (setq gnus-treat-newsgroups-picon 'head) (setq gnus-treat-body-boundary nil) (setq gnus-treat-fill-long-lines 'first) (setq gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil) (setq gnus-save-newsrc-file nil) (setq gnus-started-hook 'my-gnus-started-hook) (setq gnus-group-mode-hook '(gnus-agent-mode gnus-topic-mode)) (setq gnus-buffer-configuration '((reply-yank (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0)) (vertical 0.5 (message 1.0 point)))) (reply (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0)) (vertical 0.5 (message 1.0 point) (article 0.25)))) (message (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0)) (vertical 0.5 (message 1.0 point)))) (summary (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0 point)) (vertical 0.5 (article 1.0)))) (article (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0 point)) (vertical 0.5 (article 1.0)))) (group (vertical 1.0 (group 1.0 point))) (server (vertical 1.0 (server 1.0 point))) (browse (vertical 1.0 (browse 1.0 point))) (pick (vertical 1.0 (article 1.0 point))) (info (vertical 1.0 (info 1.0 point))) (summary-faq (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.25) (faq 1.0 point))) (only-article (vertical 1.0 (article 1.0 point))) (edit-article (vertical 1.0 (article 1.0 point))) (edit-form (vertical 1.0 (group 0.5) (edit-form 1.0 point))) (edit-score (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.25) (edit-score 1.0 point))) (edit-server (vertical 1.0 (server 0.5) (edit-form 1.0 point))) (post (vertical 1.0 (post 1.0 point))) (forward (vertical 1.0 (message 1.0 point))) (mail-bounce (vertical 1.0 (article 0.5) (message 1.0 point))) (pipe (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.25 point) ("*Shell Command Output*" 1.0))) (bug (vertical 1.0 (if gnus-bug-create-help-buffer '("*Gnus Help Bug*" 0.5)) ("*Gnus Bug*" 1.0 point))) (score-trace (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.5 point) ("*Score Trace*" 1.0))) (score-words (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.5 point) ("*Score Words*" 1.0))) (split-trace (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.5 point) ("*Split Trace*" 1.0))) (category (vertical 1.0 (category 1.0))) (compose-bounce (vertical 1.0 (article 0.5) (message 1.0 point))) (display-term (vertical 1.0 ("*display*" 1.0))) (mml-preview (vertical 1.0 (message 0.5) (mml-preview 1.0 point))))) (setq gnus-server-mode-hook '(gnus-agent-mode)) (setq mm-charset-synonym-alist '((ibm866 . cp866) (unicode . utf-16-le) (ks_c_5601-1987 . cp949) (windows-31j . cp932) (utf8 . utf-8) (iso8859-1 . iso-8859-1) (iso_8859-1 . iso-8859-1))) ;; (makeunbound 'mm-extra-numeric-entities) (setq mm-inline-media-tests '(("application/msword" mm-inline-text identity) ("image/p?jpeg" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'jpeg handle))) ("image/png" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'png handle))) ("image/gif" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'gif handle))) ("image/tiff" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'tiff handle))) ("image/xbm" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xbm handle))) ("image/x-xbitmap" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xbm handle))) ("image/xpm" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xpm handle))) ("image/x-xpixmap" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xpm handle))) ("image/bmp" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'bmp handle))) ("image/x-portable-bitmap" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'pbm handle))) ("text/plain" mm-inline-text identity) ("text/enriched" mm-inline-text identity) ("text/richtext" mm-inline-text identity) ("text/x-patch" mm-display-patch-inline identity) ("text/x-diff" mm-display-patch-inline identity) ("application/emacs-lisp" mm-display-elisp-inline identity) ("application/x-emacs-lisp" mm-display-elisp-inline identity) ("application/x-shellscript" mm-display-shell-script-inline identit= y) ("application/x-sh" mm-display-shell-script-inline identity) ("text/x-sh" mm-display-shell-script-inline identity) ("application/javascript" mm-display-javascript-inline identity) ("text/dns" mm-display-dns-inline identity) ("text/x-org" mm-display-org-inline identity) ("text/html" mm-inline-text-html (lambda (handle) mm-text-html-renderer)) ("text/x-vcard" mm-inline-text-vcard (lambda (handle) (or (featurep 'vcard) (locate-library "vcard")))) ("message/delivery-status" mm-inline-text identity) ("message/rfc822" mm-inline-message identity) ("message/partial" mm-inline-partial identity) ("message/external-body" mm-inline-external-body identity) ("text/.*" mm-inline-text identity) ("audio/wav" mm-inline-audio (lambda (handle) (and (or (featurep 'nas-sound) (featurep 'native-sound)) (device-sound-enabled-p)))) ("audio/au" mm-inline-audio (lambda (handle) (and (or (featurep 'nas-sound) (featurep 'native-sound)) (device-sound-enabled-p)))) ("application/pgp-signature" ignore identity) ("application/x-pkcs7-signature" ignore identity) ("application/pkcs7-signature" ignore identity) ("application/x-pkcs7-mime" ignore identity) ("application/pkcs7-mime" ignore identity) ("multipart/alternative" ignore identity) ("multipart/mixed" ignore identity) ("multipart/related" ignore identity) ("audio/.*" ignore ignore) ("image/.*" ignore ignore) (".*" mm-inline-text mm-readable-p))) (setq mm-automatic-display '("application/msword" "text/plain" "text/enriched" "text/richtext" "= text/html" "text/x-verbatim" "text/x-vcard" "image/.*" "message/delivery-st= atus" "multipart/.*" "message/rfc822" "text/x-patch" "text/dns" "applicatio= n/pgp-signature" "application/emacs-lisp" "application/x-emacs-lisp" "appli= cation/x-pkcs7-signature" "application/pkcs7-signature" "application/x-pkcs= 7-mime" "application/pkcs7-mime" "application/pgp\\'" "text/x-org")) (setq mm-attachment-override-types '("application/msword" "text/x-vcard" "application/pkcs7-mime" "appli= cation/x-pkcs7-mime" "application/pkcs7-signature" "application/x-pkcs7-sig= nature")) (setq mm-automatic-external-display '("application/msword")) (setq message-syntax-checks '((sender . disabled) (long-lines . disabled))) (setq message-required-headers '((X-Draft-From lambda nil (gnus-inews-make-draft-meta-information "INBOX" 'nil)) (optional . References) From)) (setq message-subject-re-regexp "^[ ]*\\(\\([Rr][Ee]\\|[Aa][Ww]\\)\\(\\[[0= -9]*\\]\\)*:[ ]*\\)*[ ]*") (setq message-forward-ignored-headers '("^Content-Transfer-Encoding:" "^X-Gnus" "^X-" "^Received:" "^User-A= gent:" "^References:")) (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) (setq message-post-method '(nntp "news")) (setq message-mode-hook '(#[nil "\302\030\303 !)\207" [gnus-article-copy gnus-setup-message-group nil gnus-configur= e-posting-styles] 2] #[nil "\302 \211\020\211\021\207" [message-mailer message-newsreader gnus-extended-version] 2] (lambda nil (auto-fill-mode t)))) (setq message-header-setup-hook '(gnus-inews-insert-gcc)) (setq message-citation-line-function 'message-insert-spam-resistant-citatio= n-line) (setq message-default-headers "Bcc: dave@boostpro.com\n") --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 03 12:25:44 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 16:25:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPUN-0004W3-EY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:25:43 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPUL-0004Vr-8B for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:25:42 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPU9-0002pf-Jm for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:25:29 +0200 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:25:28 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #8978 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QdPU9-0002pf-Jm X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310315129.68569@jTspkmH9txbqmhr09yK68Q X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) close 8978 24.1 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 03 12:40:11 2011 Received: (at 8978) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 16:40:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPiM-0005yO-Jk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:40:11 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPYh-0004iZ-67 for 8978@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:30:11 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPYV-0002tz-NZ; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:29:59 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: No complete guide to article marks / gnus-summary-line-format underdocumented In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:22:58 -0400") Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:25:25 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Oval's _Oh_: "Sediment" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:submit@debbugs.gnu.org::hwy+I+GOqNgl0DPZ:000000000000000000000000000000000000000GjKA X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:dave@boostpro.com::ZcnTOP2UYBm9+Or+:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001AmYz X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:8978@debbugs.gnu.org::QqKk4g3843Lwrfy8:00000000000000000000000000000000000000001FE3u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QdPYV-0002tz-NZ X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310315399.82622@3SUZzO+RFfB56K4iazmg9A X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8978 Cc: 8978@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: > The docs for gnus-summary-line-format mention that "%U" produces "R", > "K", "-", or " ". However, they fail to mention "r", for example. The > first clue I could find about that mark was in "9.18.4 Spam and Ham > Processors" of all places, where it drops the hint that "r" means > "explicit delete" (!). Users *really* need a little table that gives a > complete guide to the built-in marks, so that when they look at the > summary buffer, they know what it means. I've now made the doc string for that variable link to "(gnus)Read Articles", which lists all the marks, I think. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 03 16:30:26 2011 Received: (at 8978) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 20:30:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdTJB-00007w-T0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:30:26 -0400 Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.216.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdTJ9-00007k-C6 for 8978@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:30:24 -0400 Received: by qwc23 with SMTP id 23so2297433qwc.3 for <8978@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.211.201 with SMTP id gp9mr2620071qab.144.1309725017946; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t21sm4254127qcs.26.2011.07.03.13.30.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 20FAF68647C; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 16:30:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: No complete guide to article marks / gnus-summary-line-format underdocumented References: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:30:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:25:25 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8978 Cc: 8978@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) on Sun Jul 03 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >> The docs for gnus-summary-line-format mention that "%U" produces "R", >> "K", "-", or " ". However, they fail to mention "r", for example. The >> first clue I could find about that mark was in "9.18.4 Spam and Ham >> Processors" of all places, where it drops the hint that "r" means >> "explicit delete" (!). Users *really* need a little table that gives a >> complete guide to the built-in marks, so that when they look at the >> summary buffer, they know what it means. > > I've now made the doc string for that variable link to > "(gnus)Read Articles", which lists all the marks, I think. Not a complete list. The following are not covered on that page: "-" " " (gnus-unread-mark) "=" (gnus-unsendable-mark) "%" (gnus-downloadable-mark") "!" (gnus-ticked-mark) "$" (gnus-spam-mark) "?" (gnus-dormant-mark) "E" (gnus-expirable-mark) "A" (gnus-replied-mark) All articles that you have replied to or made a followup to "*" Article is "[[info:gnus#Persistent%20Articles][persistent]]" -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 05 18:54:01 2011 Received: (at 8978-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2011 22:54:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeEVF-0008Gj-Dh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 18:54:01 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeEVD-0008GT-DN for 8978-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 18:54:01 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QeEV1-0006VG-NT; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 00:53:47 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: No complete guide to article marks / gnus-summary-line-format underdocumented In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:30:16 -0400") Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 00:53:45 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEX+/v4DBASxsbLc3NwD AwMBAQEqKixUU1X29vcICAoCAgQAAAL///8BAQJ+fn8CAgJRZwaiAAABXUlEQVQ4jaXQv0vDQBQH 8IJrl9jWGhe1LhbEVZAsB8E1SzOfmyAdWgv1B7oWhCBWpVaFDh1d/AuE0ILccGTTQQgOigqWQCEZ 5VkjNe3l3iC+5Y773Pfe4xIcqcQ/wFlC4NBCYIUvyMFjF5oUthy3J4WKc13KhX2SQoIdbGet4flo D/7hlmRP5aufD5YMnKvbtrQ5P3JTcmCX03Lgm81ob4/CXkoKE2/17KIEWHkGQH2PQ+0GTPNxzYrB yxOFoEB6InTPAsiYQIoiOACuCVD4nXgIdwEd9DDJpJhY9QEoEF3VhEQ5Y1Lf8KFfSY5Bpx7QwAAw fLWlMS2C2n0/ndYJKIqiNqrFCPKzAAGAbqQ3PM8bScz731NRMvUsjFvzB/dpgexwAdjyrqLr+rk1 BnZIudxrY46LiZ9vaXEEThDonGLQxGA9XOwYdPeRBMOge4xBEQHbQmCsQkhigCb+BF9Xn17F3vXd 6AAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Pet Shop Boys's _The Most Incredible Thing (1)_: "The Competition" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110705:8978@debbugs.gnu.org::w2TcOWLnxtWIgI7w:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000chCb X-Hashcash: 1:23:110705:dave@boostpro.com::bTYQ/stlJplcpY2j:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001DgFk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QeEV1-0006VG-NT X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310511227.83329@ienqRDFy9ECrTjrMcXcYgw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8978-close Cc: 8978-close@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: >> I've now made the doc string for that variable link to >> "(gnus)Read Articles", which lists all the marks, I think. > > Not a complete list. The following are not covered on that page: I've changed the link to "Marking Articles". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 05 23:05:05 2011 Received: (at 8978-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2011 03:05:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeIQC-0006EP-E9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 23:05:04 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f179.google.com ([209.85.216.179]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeIQA-0006Dv-6d for 8978-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 23:05:03 -0400 Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so3901829qyk.3 for <8978-close@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.215.129 with SMTP id he1mr6277625qab.58.1309921496186; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.local (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e18sm6060423qcs.29.2011.07.05.20.04.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 05 Jul 2011 20:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3CE366AA5C7; Tue, 5 Jul 2011 23:04:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: No complete guide to article marks / gnus-summary-line-format underdocumented References: Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 23:04:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 06 Jul 2011 00:53:45 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8978-close Cc: 8978-close@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) on Tue Jul 05 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >>> I've now made the doc string for that variable link to >>> "(gnus)Read Articles", which lists all the marks, I think. >> >> Not a complete list. The following are not covered on that page: > > I've changed the link to "Marking Articles". Thanks, but it doesn't address the most important part of this issue: IMO users still need a complete and condensed guide to article marks. I had to make my own by crawling through the docs. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 06 12:57:11 2011 Received: (at 8978-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2011 16:57:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeVPT-0004Yz-Gp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:57:11 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeVPR-0004Yj-Fs for 8978-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:57:10 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QeVPF-00074r-VB; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:56:57 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: No complete guide to article marks / gnus-summary-line-format underdocumented In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Tue, 05 Jul 2011 23:04:54 -0400") Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:54:06 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Demdike Stare's _Tryptych (3): Voices Of Dust_: "Leptonic Matter" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110706:8978-close@debbugs.gnu.org::r78VQ43sNrXsad2d:000000000000000000000000000000000001hmv X-Hashcash: 1:23:110706:dave@boostpro.com::hp9TaZZ11L0a27M2:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000006otn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QeVPF-00074r-VB X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310576218.10546@oVewzv9Wl9aFqM3SSM6GgA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8978-close Cc: 8978-close@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: >> I've changed the link to "Marking Articles". > > Thanks, but it doesn't address the most important part of this issue: > IMO users still need a complete and condensed guide to article marks. I > had to make my own by crawling through the docs. I think all the nodes under that node should list all the marks. If any are missing, that's a bug. But listing all marks twice doesn't seem productive. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 06 14:05:46 2011 Received: (at 8978-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2011 18:05:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWTo-0007uX-Kx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:05:46 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f179.google.com ([209.85.216.179]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWTm-0007u9-QL for 8978-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:05:43 -0400 Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so123750qyk.3 for <8978-close@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.183.135 with SMTP id cg7mr6177329qab.27.1309975537165; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m31sm3816984qck.1.2011.07.06.11.05.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 9BE716B33F9; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 14:05:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: No complete guide to article marks / gnus-summary-line-format underdocumented References: Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:05:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:54:06 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8978-close Cc: 8978-close@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) on Wed Jul 06 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >>> I've changed the link to "Marking Articles". >> >> Thanks, but it doesn't address the most important part of this issue: >> IMO users still need a complete and condensed guide to article marks. I >> had to make my own by crawling through the docs. > > I think all the nodes under that node should list all the marks. If any > are missing, that's a bug. > > But listing all marks twice doesn't seem productive. Thanks for your patience; I think you are probably right about this. For some reason I had the impression that the marks were scattered throughout the docs, but the organization looks fine to me now. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:16:26 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator