From unknown Tue Sep 09 21:32:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8975: "Version control" undefined Resent-From: Dave Abrahams Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 15:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 8975 X-GNU-PR-Package: debbugs.gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 8975@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.130953391729802 (code B ref -1); Fri, 01 Jul 2011 15:26:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jul 2011 15:25:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qcfan-0007kc-1d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:25:17 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qcfal-0007kQ-Gw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:25:16 -0400 Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so703685qyk.3 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.45.3 with SMTP id c3mr2610451qcf.221.1309533910059; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v4sm2632439qca.4.2011.07.01.08.25.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jul 2011 08:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 9544E5DCE36; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:25:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:25:08 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain "1.6 Startup Files" sez: The `gnus-startup-file' variable says where the startup files are. The default value is `~/.newsrc', with the Gnus (El Dingo) startup file being whatever that one is, with a `.eld' appended. If you want version control for this file, set `gnus-backup-startup-file'. It respects the same values as the `version-control' variable. An informed user might know enough to look at the help for `version-control' and discover that this refers to keeping multiple backup files, but especially these days, most readers are likely to associate "version control" with something like Git or SVN. Either "version control" should be linked, or, preferably, you should s/If you want version control for/If you want to keep multiple numbered backups of/ Package: gnus Version: 5.110018 No Gnus v0.18 GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.35) of 2011-03-09 on black.porkrind.org 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) 101 Capability list: VERSION 2 IMPLEMENTATION INN 2.5.1 AUTHINFO USER HDR LIST ACTIVE ACTIVE.TIMES DISTRIB.PATS HEADERS NEWSGROUPS OVERVIEW.FMT OVER POST READER STARTTLS . --=-=-= Content-Type: application/emacs-lisp Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: User settings ------------------ Environment follows ------------------ (setq gnus-buffers '(# #> # #> # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #)) (setq gnus-default-nntp-server "") (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "BoostPro" (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com") (nnimap-stream ssl) (nnimap-authenticator login) (nnimap-nov-is-evil t))) (setq gnus-valid-select-methods '(("nntp" post address prompt-address physical-address) ("nnspool" post address) ("nnvirtual" post-mail virtual prompt-address) ("nnmbox" mail respool address) ("nnml" post-mail respool address) ("nnmh" mail respool address) ("nndir" post-mail prompt-address physical-address) ("nneething" none address prompt-address physical-address) ("nndoc" none address prompt-address) ("nnbabyl" mail address respool) ("nndraft" post-mail) ("nnfolder" mail respool address) ("nngateway" post-mail address prompt-address physical-address) ("nnweb" none) ("nnrss" none) ("nnagent" post-mail) ("nnimap" post-mail address prompt-address physical-address respool= server-marks) ("nnmaildir" mail respool address) ("nnnil" none) ("nnir" mail))) (setq gnus-group-change-level-function 'gnus-topic-change-level) (setq gnus-summary-ignore-duplicates t) (setq gnus-summary-mode-hook '(gnus-agent-mode)) (setq gnus-extra-headers '(To Newsgroups X-Spambayes-Classification Reply-To Message-ID Messag= e-Id)) (setq gnus-ignored-from-addresses "^david.abrahams@rcn.com\\|dave@boost\\(-= consulting\\|pro\\).com$") (setq gnus-group-line-format "%M%S%p%P%5y%~(form my-align-gnus-group)@|%B%(= %G%)%O\n") (setq gnus-group-catchup-group-hook '(gnus-topic-update-topic)) (setq gnus-group-update-group-hook '(DE-collapse-group-names)) (setq gnus-group-prepare-hook '(DE-collapse-group-names)) (setq gnus-exit-gnus-hook '(mm-destroy-postponed-undisplay-list)) (setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types '("multipart/signed" "multipart/alternative" "application/msword")) (setq gnus-treat-from-picon 'head) (setq gnus-treat-mail-picon 'head) (setq gnus-treat-newsgroups-picon 'head) (setq gnus-treat-body-boundary nil) (setq gnus-treat-fill-long-lines 'first) (setq gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil) (setq gnus-save-newsrc-file nil) (setq gnus-started-hook 'my-gnus-started-hook) (setq gnus-group-mode-hook '(gnus-agent-mode gnus-topic-mode)) (setq gnus-buffer-configuration '((reply-yank (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0)) (vertical 0.5 (message 1.0 point)))) (reply (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0)) (vertical 0.5 (message 1.0 point) (article 0.25)))) (message (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0)) (vertical 0.5 (message 1.0 point)))) (summary (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0 point)) (vertical 0.5 (article 1.0)))) (article (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0 point)) (vertical 0.5 (article 1.0)))) (group (vertical 1.0 (group 1.0 point))) (server (vertical 1.0 (server 1.0 point))) (browse (vertical 1.0 (browse 1.0 point))) (pick (vertical 1.0 (article 1.0 point))) (info (vertical 1.0 (info 1.0 point))) (summary-faq (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.25) (faq 1.0 point))) (only-article (vertical 1.0 (article 1.0 point))) (edit-article (vertical 1.0 (article 1.0 point))) (edit-form (vertical 1.0 (group 0.5) (edit-form 1.0 point))) (edit-score (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.25) (edit-score 1.0 point))) (edit-server (vertical 1.0 (server 0.5) (edit-form 1.0 point))) (post (vertical 1.0 (post 1.0 point))) (forward (vertical 1.0 (message 1.0 point))) (mail-bounce (vertical 1.0 (article 0.5) (message 1.0 point))) (pipe (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.25 point) ("*Shell Command Output*" 1.0))) (bug (vertical 1.0 (if gnus-bug-create-help-buffer '("*Gnus Help Bug*" 37)) ("*Gnus Bug*" 1.0 point))) (score-trace (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.5 point) ("*Score Trace*" 1.0))) (score-words (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.5 point) ("*Score Words*" 1.0))) (split-trace (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.5 point) ("*Split Trace*" 1.0))) (category (vertical 1.0 (category 1.0))) (compose-bounce (vertical 1.0 (article 0.5) (message 1.0 point))) (display-term (vertical 1.0 ("*display*" 1.0))) (mml-preview (vertical 1.0 (message 0.5) (mml-preview 1.0 point))))) (setq gnus-server-mode-hook '(gnus-agent-mode)) (setq mm-charset-synonym-alist '((ibm866 . cp866) (unicode . utf-16-le) (ks_c_5601-1987 . cp949) (windows-31j . cp932) (utf8 . utf-8) (iso8859-1 . iso-8859-1) (iso_8859-1 . iso-8859-1))) ;; (makeunbound 'mm-extra-numeric-entities) (setq mm-inline-text-html-with-images t) (setq mm-inline-media-tests '(("application/msword" mm-inline-text identity) ("image/p?jpeg" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'jpeg handle))) ("image/png" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'png handle))) ("image/gif" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'gif handle))) ("image/tiff" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'tiff handle))) ("image/xbm" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xbm handle))) ("image/x-xbitmap" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xbm handle))) ("image/xpm" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xpm handle))) ("image/x-xpixmap" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xpm handle))) ("image/bmp" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'bmp handle))) ("image/x-portable-bitmap" mm-inline-image (lambda (handle) (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'pbm handle))) ("text/plain" mm-inline-text identity) ("text/enriched" mm-inline-text identity) ("text/richtext" mm-inline-text identity) ("text/x-patch" mm-display-patch-inline identity) ("text/x-diff" mm-display-patch-inline identity) ("application/emacs-lisp" mm-display-elisp-inline identity) ("application/x-emacs-lisp" mm-display-elisp-inline identity) ("application/x-shellscript" mm-display-shell-script-inline identit= y) ("application/x-sh" mm-display-shell-script-inline identity) ("text/x-sh" mm-display-shell-script-inline identity) ("application/javascript" mm-display-javascript-inline identity) ("text/dns" mm-display-dns-inline identity) ("text/x-org" mm-display-org-inline identity) ("text/html" mm-inline-text-html (lambda (handle) mm-text-html-renderer)) ("text/x-vcard" mm-inline-text-vcard (lambda (handle) (or (featurep 'vcard) (locate-library "vcard")))) ("message/delivery-status" mm-inline-text identity) ("message/rfc822" mm-inline-message identity) ("message/partial" mm-inline-partial identity) ("message/external-body" mm-inline-external-body identity) ("text/.*" mm-inline-text identity) ("audio/wav" mm-inline-audio (lambda (handle) (and (or (featurep 'nas-sound) (featurep 'native-sound)) (device-sound-enabled-p)))) ("audio/au" mm-inline-audio (lambda (handle) (and (or (featurep 'nas-sound) (featurep 'native-sound)) (device-sound-enabled-p)))) ("application/pgp-signature" ignore identity) ("application/x-pkcs7-signature" ignore identity) ("application/pkcs7-signature" ignore identity) ("application/x-pkcs7-mime" ignore identity) ("application/pkcs7-mime" ignore identity) ("multipart/alternative" ignore identity) ("multipart/mixed" ignore identity) ("multipart/related" ignore identity) ("audio/.*" ignore ignore) ("image/.*" ignore ignore) (".*" mm-inline-text mm-readable-p))) (setq mm-automatic-display '("application/msword" "text/plain" "text/enriched" "text/richtext" "= text/html" "text/x-verbatim" "text/x-vcard" "image/.*" "message/delivery-st= atus" "multipart/.*" "message/rfc822" "text/x-patch" "text/dns" "applicatio= n/pgp-signature" "application/emacs-lisp" "application/x-emacs-lisp" "appli= cation/x-pkcs7-signature" "application/pkcs7-signature" "application/x-pkcs= 7-mime" "application/pkcs7-mime" "application/pgp\\'" "text/x-org")) (setq mm-attachment-override-types '("application/msword" "text/x-vcard" "application/pkcs7-mime" "appli= cation/x-pkcs7-mime" "application/pkcs7-signature" "application/x-pkcs7-sig= nature" "image/*")) (setq mm-automatic-external-display '("application/msword")) (setq mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext" "image/.*")) (setq message-syntax-checks '((sender . disabled) (long-lines . disabled))) (setq message-required-headers '((X-Draft-From lambda nil (gnus-inews-make-draft-meta-information "INBOX" 'nil)) (optional . References) From)) (setq message-subject-re-regexp "^[ ]*\\(\\([Rr][Ee]\\|[Aa][Ww]\\)\\(\\[[0= -9]*\\]\\)*:[ ]*\\)*[ ]*") (setq message-forward-ignored-headers '("^Content-Transfer-Encoding:" "^X-Gnus" "^X-" "^Received:" "^User-A= gent:" "^References:")) (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) (setq message-post-method '(nntp "news")) (setq message-mode-hook '(#[nil "\302\030\303 !)\207" [gnus-article-copy gnus-setup-message-group nil gnus-configur= e-posting-styles] 2] #[nil "\302 \211\020\211\021\207" [message-mailer message-newsreader gnus-extended-version] 2] (lambda nil (auto-fill-mode t)))) (setq message-header-setup-hook '(gnus-inews-insert-gcc)) (setq message-citation-line-function 'message-insert-spam-resistant-citatio= n-line) (setq message-default-headers "Bcc: dave@boostpro.com\n") --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 03 12:19:09 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 16:19:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPO0-0004MK-O1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:19:08 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPNx-0004Lp-TV for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:19:06 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPNi-0002jg-Ng for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:18:50 +0200 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:18:50 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #8975 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QdPNi-0002jg-Ng X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310314730.91554@NsBe0Uwn+CJeJG9D0nJsrA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) tags 8975 fixed close 8975 24.1 From unknown Tue Sep 09 21:32:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8975: "Version control" undefined Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:31:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8975 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Dave Abrahams Cc: 8975@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8975-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8975.130971061818878 (code B ref 8975); Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:31:03 +0000 Received: (at 8975) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 16:30:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPYn-0004uO-G0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:30:17 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPYh-0004io-AF for 8975@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:30:13 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QdPYU-0002ts-Md; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:29:58 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:25:08 -0400") Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:18:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Oval's _Oh_: "Oh!" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:8975@debbugs.gnu.org::4c0/ZN7XTVrmcDHT:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000AQJZ X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:submit@debbugs.gnu.org::UQ5yiRzIHR8pmK9J:000000000000000000000000000000000000000V+wD X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:dave@boostpro.com::goy6cQTbWiwltMNZ:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001JI25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QdPYU-0002ts-Md X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310315398.76638@/TD/ufCpTwErEcWnT+wO1Q X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: > An informed user might know enough to look at the help for > `version-control' and discover that this refers to keeping multiple > backup files, but especially these days, most readers are likely to > associate "version control" with something like Git or SVN. Either > "version control" should be linked, or, preferably, you should > > s/If you want version control for/If you want to keep multiple numbered backups of/ Thanks; I've now made this change. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/