From unknown Thu Jun 19 10:34:21 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#8973 <8973@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#8973 <8973@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: "options ..." line underdocumented Reply-To: bug#8973 <8973@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:34:21 +0000 retitle 8973 "options ..." line underdocumented reassign 8973 gnus submitter 8973 Dave Abrahams severity 8973 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 01 11:15:28 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jul 2011 15:15:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QcfRI-0007Wu-9A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:15:28 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QcfRG-0007Wi-BH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:15:27 -0400 Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so698237qyk.3 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 08:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.128.78 with SMTP id j14mr408933qas.319.1309533320332; Fri, 01 Jul 2011 08:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm2627040qcm.3.2011.07.01.08.15.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jul 2011 08:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id A76905DCC34; Fri, 1 Jul 2011 11:15:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: "options ..." line underdocumented Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:15:18 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain 1.4.3 Filtering New Groups mentions an "options" line I can put at the top of my .newsrc, but only offers an example of how to disable certain groups that way, and no links to anyplace where I can get more information about how this line works, what options (e.g. "-n") are available, and/or what they mean. IMO there should be a link to more complete documentation, or support for the option should be dropped. Package: gnus Version: 5.110018 No Gnus v0.18 GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.35) of 2011-03-09 on black.porkrind.org 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) 101 Capability list: VERSION 2 IMPLEMENTATION INN 2.5.1 AUTHINFO USER HDR LIST ACTIVE ACTIVE.TIMES DISTRIB.PATS HEADERS NEWSGROUPS OVERVIEW.FMT OVER POST READER STARTTLS . --=-=-= Content-Type: application/emacs-lisp Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: User settings ------------------ Environment follows ------------------ (setq gnus-buffers '(# # # # # # # # # # # # # # #)) (setq gnus-default-nntp-server "") (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "BoostPro" (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com") (nnimap-stream ssl) (nnimap-authenticator login) (nnimap-nov-is-evil t))) (setq gnus-valid-select-methods '(("nntp" post address prompt-address physical-address) ("nnspool" post address) ("nnvirtual" post-mail virtual prompt-address) ("nnmbox" mail respool address) ("nnml" post-mail respool address) ("nnmh" mail respool address) ("nndir" post-mail prompt-address physical-address) ("nneething" none address prompt-address physical-address) ("nndoc" none address prompt-address) ("nnbabyl" mail address respool) ("nndraft" post-mail) ("nnfolder" mail respool address) ("nngateway" post-mail address prompt-address physical-address) ("nnweb" none) ("nnrss" none) ("nnagent" post-mail) ("nnimap" post-mail address prompt-address physical-address respool= server-marks) ("nnmaildir" mail respool address) ("nnnil" none) ("nnir" mail))) (setq gnus-group-change-level-function 'gnus-topic-change-level) (setq gnus-summary-ignore-duplicates t) (setq gnus-summary-mode-hook '(gnus-agent-mode)) (setq gnus-extra-headers '(To Newsgroups X-Spambayes-Classification Reply-To Message-ID Messag= e-Id)) (setq gnus-ignored-from-addresses "^david.abrahams@rcn.com\\|dave@boost\\(-= consulting\\|pro\\).com$") (setq gnus-group-line-format "%M%S%p%P%5y%~(form my-align-gnus-group)@|%B%(= %G%)%O\n") (setq gnus-group-catchup-group-hook '(gnus-topic-update-topic)) (setq gnus-group-update-group-hook '(DE-collapse-group-names)) (setq gnus-group-prepare-hook '(DE-collapse-group-names)) (setq gnus-exit-gnus-hook '(mm-destroy-postponed-undisplay-list)) (setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types '("multipart/signed" "multipart/alternative" "application/msword")) (setq gnus-treat-from-picon 'head) (setq gnus-treat-mail-picon 'head) (setq gnus-treat-newsgroups-picon 'head) (setq gnus-treat-body-boundary nil) (setq gnus-treat-fill-long-lines 'first) (setq gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil) (setq gnus-started-hook 'my-gnus-started-hook) (setq gnus-group-mode-hook '(gnus-agent-mode gnus-topic-mode)) (setq gnus-buffer-configuration '((reply-yank (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0)) (vertical 0.5 (message 1.0 point)))) (reply (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0)) (vertical 0.5 (message 1.0 point) (article 0.25)))) (message (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0)) (vertical 0.5 (message 1.0 point)))) (summary (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0 point)) (vertical 0.5 (article 1.0)))) (article (horizontal 1.0 (vertical 1.0 (group 35) (summary 1.0 point)) (vertical 0.5 (article 1.0)))) (group (vertical 1.0 (group 1.0 point))) (server (vertical 1.0 (server 1.0 point))) (browse (vertical 1.0 (browse 1.0 point))) (pick (vertical 1.0 (article 1.0 point))) (info (vertical 1.0 (info 1.0 point))) (summary-faq (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.25) (faq 1.0 point))) (only-article (vertical 1.0 (article 1.0 point))) (edit-article (vertical 1.0 (article 1.0 point))) (edit-form (vertical 1.0 (group 0.5) (edit-form 1.0 point))) (edit-score (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.25) (edit-score 1.0 point))) (edit-server (vertical 1.0 (server 0.5) (edit-form 1.0 point))) (post (vertical 1.0 (post 1.0 point))) (forward (vertical 1.0 (message 1.0 point))) (mail-bounce (vertical 1.0 (article 0.5) (message 1.0 point))) (pipe (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.25 point) ("*Shell Command Output*" 1.0))) (bug (vertical 1.0 (if gnus-bug-create-help-buffer '("*Gnus Help Bug*" 37)) ("*Gnus Bug*" 1.0 point))) (score-trace (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.5 point) ("*Score Trace*" 1.0))) (score-words (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.5 point) ("*Score Words*" 1.0))) (split-trace (vertical 1.0 (summary 0.5 point) ("*Split Trace*" 1.0))) (category (vertical 1.0 (category 1.0))) (compose-bounce (vertical 1.0 (article 0.5) (message 1.0 point))) (display-term (vertical 1.0 ("*display*" 1.0))) (mml-preview (vertical 1.0 (message 0.5) (mml-preview 1.0 point))))) (setq gnus-server-mode-hook '(gnus-agent-mode)) (setq mm-charset-synonym-alist '((ibm866 . cp866) (unicode . utf-16-le) (ks_c_5601-1987 . cp949) (windows-31j . cp932) (utf8 . utf-8) (iso8859-1 . iso-8859-1) (iso_8859-1 . iso-8859-1))) ;; 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References) From)) (setq message-subject-re-regexp "^[ ]*\\(\\([Rr][Ee]\\|[Aa][Ww]\\)\\(\\[[0= -9]*\\]\\)*:[ ]*\\)*[ ]*") (setq message-forward-ignored-headers '("^Content-Transfer-Encoding:" "^X-Gnus" "^X-" "^Received:" "^User-A= gent:" "^References:")) (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) (setq message-post-method '(nntp "news")) (setq message-mode-hook '(#[nil "\302\030\303 !)\207" [gnus-article-copy gnus-setup-message-group nil gnus-configur= e-posting-styles] 2] #[nil "\302 \211\020\211\021\207" [message-mailer message-newsreader gnus-extended-version] 2] (lambda nil (auto-fill-mode t)))) (setq message-header-setup-hook '(gnus-inews-insert-gcc)) (setq message-citation-line-function 'message-insert-spam-resistant-citatio= n-line) (setq message-default-headers "Bcc: dave@boostpro.com\n") --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 03 13:07:10 2011 Received: (at 8973) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 17:07:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdQ8U-0008HW-69 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:07:10 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdQ8R-0008HH-I5 for 8973@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:07:08 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QdQ8G-0003RF-B2; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:06:56 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: "options ..." line underdocumented In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:15:18 -0400") Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:06:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Various's _Harry Smith's Anthology of American Folk Music Volume Four (1)_: "Jack Kelly and His South Memphis Jug Band - Cold Iron Bed" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:8973@debbugs.gnu.org::VOvOA6yvPZAv+nhH:000000000000000000000000000000000000000004axQ X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:dave@boostpro.com::3F2p3Fk/FfVGb9lF:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000iRqy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QdQ8G-0003RF-B2 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310317616.41443@hFbpOU9GWzfxQ8PEX5bJtg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8973 Cc: 8973@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: > 1.4.3 Filtering New Groups mentions an "options" line I can put at the > top of my .newsrc, but only offers an example of how to disable certain > groups that way, and no links to anyplace where I can get more > information about how this line works, what options (e.g. "-n") are > available, and/or what they mean. IMO there should be a link to more > complete documentation, or support for the option should be dropped. The example lists denying two hierarchies, and forcing subscription to the last one. And there aren't any more features or options, so I'm not sure what else to document... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 03 16:37:36 2011 Received: (at 8973) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 20:37:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdTQ7-0000J9-QM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:37:36 -0400 Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.216.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdTQ5-0000Ir-7m for 8973@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:37:33 -0400 Received: by qwc23 with SMTP id 23so2298661qwc.3 for <8973@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.177.205 with SMTP id bj13mr4538002qab.287.1309725447774; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm4255829qcm.39.2011.07.03.13.37.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3907F68660F; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 16:37:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: "options ..." line underdocumented References: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:37:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:06:48 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8973 Cc: 8973@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) on Sun Jul 03 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >> 1.4.3 Filtering New Groups mentions an "options" line I can put at the >> top of my .newsrc, but only offers an example of how to disable certain >> groups that way, and no links to anyplace where I can get more >> information about how this line works, what options (e.g. "-n") are >> available, and/or what they mean. IMO there should be a link to more >> complete documentation, or support for the option should be dropped. > > The example lists denying two hierarchies, and forcing subscription to > the last one. And there aren't any more features or options, so I'm not > sure what else to document... Well, for example, you could tell me what the `-n' option does. I expect it's meaningful to leave it out, or there wouldn't be any point in having it. What happens when I leave it out? You could give me more detail about what's allowed for the other arguments--- am I limited to arguments matching the regexp `!\[A-Za-z]\.all'? If not, what does the part after the `.' mean and how is it interpreted? -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 03 16:49:18 2011 Received: (at 8973) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 20:49:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdTbS-0000Zm-9B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:49:18 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdTbP-0000ZY-6w for 8973@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:49:15 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QdTbC-0006bZ-Vp; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:49:03 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: "options ..." line underdocumented In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:37:26 -0400") Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:48:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Rocket To The Sky's _Medea_: "Song Of Pearl" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:dave@boostpro.com::OQby/qtf3bw8LErD:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000UGmx X-Hashcash: 1:23:110703:8973@debbugs.gnu.org::l93AjLqqYDKmzlVd:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000Zjhe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QdTbC-0006bZ-Vp X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310330943.05544@ezYXDEe5UoxPTufkZIL8Zw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8973 Cc: 8973@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: > Well, for example, you could tell me what the `-n' option does. I > expect it's meaningful to leave it out, or there wouldn't be any point > in having it. What happens when I leave it out? It's just how the format was defined by xnews in... 89? Or something? I have no idea what the -n means, really. But "options -n" is the only thing anybody ever used, I seem to recall when writing that stuff. > You could give me more detail about what's allowed for the other > arguments--- am I limited to arguments matching the regexp > `!\[A-Za-z]\.all'? Yes. Or rather, "!?\[A-Za-z.]+\.all". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 03 16:55:15 2011 Received: (at 8973) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 20:55:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdThD-0000hx-08 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:55:15 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdThA-0000hk-KV for 8973@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:55:13 -0400 Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so743312qyk.3 for <8973@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.51.204 with SMTP id e12mr4191867qcg.178.1309726506744; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e18sm4264305qcs.41.2011.07.03.13.55.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Jul 2011 13:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id A3FD0686A35; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 16:55:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: "options ..." line underdocumented References: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:55:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:48:59 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8973 Cc: 8973@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) on Sun Jul 03 2011, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >> Well, for example, you could tell me what the `-n' option does. I >> expect it's meaningful to leave it out, or there wouldn't be any point >> in having it. What happens when I leave it out? > > It's just how the format was defined by xnews in... 89? Or something? > I have no idea what the -n means, really. But "options -n" is the only > thing anybody ever used, I seem to recall when writing that stuff. Well you could explain something to that effect in the documentation, to forestall questions like this one and the feeling among readers that they're swimming in some vague half-understood reality that isn't quite accessible to them (even if they are ;->). >> You could give me more detail about what's allowed for the other >> arguments--- am I limited to arguments matching the regexp >> `!\[A-Za-z]\.all'? > > Yes. > > Or rather, "!?\[A-Za-z.]+\.all". So, you could document that fact. Does the pattern need to match at the beginning of the newsgroup name (document that too)? -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 05 18:12:44 2011 Received: (at 8973-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2011 22:12:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeDrI-0007Gl-9z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 18:12:44 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeDrG-0007GV-9p for 8973-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2011 18:12:43 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QeDr4-0005wU-8g; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 00:12:30 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: "options ..." line underdocumented In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:55:04 -0400") Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 00:12:26 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Pet Shop Boys's _The Most Incredible Thing (1)_: "Help Me" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110705:dave@boostpro.com::4hZf168BpAMtnchk:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000ohHc X-Hashcash: 1:23:110705:8973@debbugs.gnu.org::1sVhBN2GUmEkmrKv:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000wBGf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QeDr4-0005wU-8g X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310508750.46847@KPmykVyx81ltfL6T7qN6Ew X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8973-close Cc: 8973-close@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Dave Abrahams writes: > Well you could explain something to that effect in the documentation, to > forestall questions like this one and the feeling among readers that > they're swimming in some vague half-understood reality that isn't quite > accessible to them (even if they are ;->). I've now added a sentence that things are as simple as they seem. > So, you could document that fact. Does the pattern need to match at the > beginning of the newsgroup name (document that too)? Yes. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Thu Jun 19 10:34:21 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator