From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 29 13:33:52 2011 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2011 17:33:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qbye7-0008Be-6X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:33:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QbyFo-0005tK-JI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:08:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbyFh-0003tY-G5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:08:39 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:36282) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbyFh-0003tR-6J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:08:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46294) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbyFe-0005iE-KL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:08:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbyFY-0003sn-Ho for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:08:34 -0400 Received: from na3sys009aog101.obsmtp.com ([74.125.149.67]:46205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbyFX-0003sD-QL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:08:28 -0400 Received: from mail-yi0-f43.google.com ([209.85.218.43]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob101.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTgtcBr17pS0ebQLEdEiutFItOlD2amr1@postini.com; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:08:27 PDT Received: by mail-yi0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 12so783208yib.16 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:08:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.146.190.7 with SMTP id n7mr843407yaf.28.1309367301715; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.34.16 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:08:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Slow file saves (7 seconds) From: Jon Doyle To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd56c02e636a304a6dcd414 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:33:50 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) --000e0cd56c02e636a304a6dcd414 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In a fresh installation of Emacs on a new Windows 7 machine, saving files after editing takes a very long time. For example, saving a 300KB Latex source takes about 7 seconds pretty repeatedly. The disk is running, so there is no spinup time. Editing the same file on my old, slower Windows 7 machine (same speed disk, same init files, but probably version 23.1 or 23.2) took less than a second, never long enough to notice. I saw some mentions of version control slowdowns, but I'm not using such to my knowledge, and setting the switches mentioned in those posts made no difference. I did not see anything in the emacs bug list. Thanks for any help you can offer on this. Jon Doyle In GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2011-03-10 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/imagesupport/include' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: LaTeX Minor modes in effect: display-battery-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-v C-v C-l C-n C-k C-k C-k C-k C-n C-k C-k C-x C-s C-x C-b C-n C-p SPC C-x C-f p / d e w i c k i n f C-u C-n C-u C-n C-u C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n e C-s s y m m e t r i z i n g C-p C-p C-b C-b C-b SPC f o r SPC s o m e SPC $ \ a g e n t ' ' SPC \ i n SPC \ A g e n t s $ M-q C-x C-s M-x v e r s i o n M-x r e p o r t SPC e m a c s SPC b u g Recent messages: Loading c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/style/amsmath.elc...done Loading c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/style/amstext.elc...done Loading c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/style/amsbsy.elc...done Loading c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/style/amsopn.elc...done Loading c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/style/article.elc...done Applying style hooks... done Mark saved where search started Saving file d:/now/p/wicker/influence/influence_models.tex... Wrote d:/now/p/wicker/influence/influence_models.tex GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2011-03-10 on 3249CTO Load-path shadows: d:/Admin/Configuration/emacs/ispell hides c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/lisp/textmodes/ispell Features: (shadow sort mail-extr message ecomplete rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums nnheader gnus-util netrc time-date mm-util mail-prsvr gmm-utils wid-edit mailheader canlock sha1 hex-util hashcash mail-utils emacsbug texmathp multi-isearch preview prv-emacs byte-opt warnings tex-buf noutline outline font-latex bytecomp byte-compile latex easy-mmode tex-style tex advice help-fns advice-preload easymenu latexenc dired regexp-opt ebuff-menu electric battery cus-start cus-load edmacro kmacro ispell ediff-merg ediff-diff ediff-wind ediff-help ediff-util ediff-mult ediff-init ediff mailabbrev time preview-latex tex-site auto-loads tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 disp-table ls-lisp w32-win w32-vars tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process multi-tty emacs) --000e0cd56c02e636a304a6dcd414 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a fresh installation of Emacs on a new Windows 7 machine, saving
files after editing takes a very long time. =A0For example, saving = a 300KB
Latex source takes about 7 seconds pretty repeatedly. =A0= The disk is
running, so there is no spinup time. =A0Editing the same file on my ol= d,
slower Windows 7 machine (same speed disk, same init files, bu= t probably
version 23.1 or 23.2) took less than a second, never l= ong enough to
notice. =A0I saw some mentions of version control slowdowns, but I'= ;m not
using such to my knowledge, and setting the switches menti= oned in those
posts made no difference. =A0 I did not see anythin= g in the emacs bug list.

Thanks for any help you can offer on this.
Jon Doyle


In GNU Emacs= 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)
=A0of 2011-03-10 on 3249CTO
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags -Ic= :/imagesupport/include'

Important settings:
=A0 value of $LC_ALL: nil
=A0 value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
=A0 value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
=A0 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil<= /div>
=A0 value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
=A0 value of $LC_NUMERIC= : nil
=A0 value of $LC_TIME: nil
=A0 value of $LANG: ENU
=A0 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
=A0 locale-coding-system: cp1252
=A0 default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: LaTeX

Minor modes in effect:
=A0 display-battery-mo= de: t
=A0 display-time-mode: t
=A0 tooltip-mode: t
=A0 menu-bar-mode: t
=A0 file-name-shadow-mode: t
=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t
=A0 font-lock-mode: t
=A0 blink-cursor-mode: t
=A0= auto-encryption-mode: t
=A0 auto-compression-mode: t
= =A0 line-number-mode: t
=A0 transient-mark-mode: t

=
Recent input:
C-v C-v C-l C-n C-k C-k <help-echo> C-k C-k C= -n C-k=A0
C-k C-x C-s C-x C-b C-n C-p SPC C-x C-f <backspace&g= t;=A0
<backspace> p / d e <backspace> <backspace&g= t; w i c k=A0
<tab> i n f <tab> <return> C-u C-n C-u C-n C-u C-n= =A0
C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n e C-s s y m m e t r i z i n g C-p=A0
C-p C-b C-b C-b SPC f o r SPC s o m e SPC $ \ a g e=A0
n t = ' ' SPC \ i n SPC \ A g e n t s $ M-q C-x C-s M-x=A0
v e r s i o n <return> M-x r e p o r t SPC e m a c=A0
= s SPC b u g <return>

Recent messages:
<= div>Loading c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/style/amsmath.elc= ...done
Loading c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/style/amstext.el= c...done
Loading c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/st= yle/amsbsy.elc...done
Loading c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/site-l= isp/auctex/style/amsopn.elc...done
Loading c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/style/article.el= c...done
Applying style hooks... done
Mark saved where = search started
Saving file d:/now/p/wicker/influence/influence_mo= dels.tex...
Wrote d:/now/p/wicker/influence/influence_models.tex
GNU Ema= cs 23.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2011-03-10 on 3249CTO

Load-path shadows:
d:/Admin/Configuration/emacs/ispell h= ides c:/Program Files (x86)/emacs/lisp/textmodes/ispell

Features:
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mail-utils emacsbug texmathp multi-isearch preview prv-emacs by= te-opt
warnings tex-buf noutline outline font-latex bytecomp byte= -compile latex
easy-mmode tex-style tex advice help-fns advice-preload easymenu
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latexenc dired regexp-opt ebuff-menu electric battery cus-start cus-lo= ad
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ediff-util ediff-mult ediff-init ediff mailabbrev time preview-latex
tex-site auto-loads tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mw= heel
dos-w32 disp-table ls-lisp w32-win w32-vars tool-bar dnd fon= tset image
fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select
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scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core
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--000e0cd56c02e636a304a6dcd414-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 08 11:01:16 2011 Received: (at 8957) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2011 15:01:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfCYO-0001w1-6y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:01:16 -0400 Received: from na3sys009aog118.obsmtp.com ([74.125.149.244]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfCYM-0001vn-Kk for 8957@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:01:15 -0400 Received: from mail-gx0-f178.google.com ([209.85.161.178]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob118.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKThcbtMCYj8KLjmJ0k7eE6kziyrJpMdNY@postini.com; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:01:14 PDT Received: by mail-gx0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 8so964055gxk.37 for <8957@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:01:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.181.234 with SMTP id l70mr2308413yhm.335.1310137268000; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.146.168.6 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 08:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:01:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Problem was not Emacs From: Jon Doyle To: 8957@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305b14ce77586104a7901afb X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8957 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) --20cf305b14ce77586104a7901afb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have discovered that the slow save problem I described was due to AucTeX reparsing my files every time I saved them. For a long document, this took a lot of time. When I turn off the TeX-auto-save flag in AucTeX, saves are immediate again. Sorry for the misanalyzed complaint. Jon Doyle --20cf305b14ce77586104a7901afb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have discovered that the slow save problem I described was due to AucTeX = reparsing my
files every time I saved them. =A0For a long document, thi= s took a lot of time. =A0When I turn
off the=A0TeX-auto-save flag= in AucTeX, saves are immediate again.

Sorry for the misanalyzed complaint.

Jon Doyle
--20cf305b14ce77586104a7901afb-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 08 12:07:16 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2011 16:07:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfDaF-0003Y8-UG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:07:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfDaE-0003Xv-35 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:07:14 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfDa8-0001S4-DX for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:07:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:07:08 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 8957 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) tag 8957 notabug close 8957 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 08 12:13:36 2011 Received: (at 8957-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2011 16:13:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfDgO-0003hq-7W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:13:36 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfDgM-0003hd-9r for 8957-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:13:34 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAGcsF05MCqt8/2dsb2JhbABSEKc3eIh7wgiGOASefYNcUw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,500,1304308800"; d="scan'208";a="123817357" Received: from 76-10-171-124.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.171.124]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 08 Jul 2011 12:13:28 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3139259160; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 12:13:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Jon Doyle Subject: Re: bug#8957: Problem was not Emacs Message-ID: References: Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:13:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Jon Doyle's message of "Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:01:07 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8957-done Cc: 8957-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > I have discovered that the slow save problem I described was due to > AucTeX reparsing my files every time I saved them. For a long > document, this took a lot of time. When I turn off the TeX-auto-save > flag in AucTeX, saves are immediate again. Thanks, case closed here. > Sorry for the misanalyzed complaint. No problem, Stefan From unknown Sun Aug 10 06:11:13 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator