From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8904: 24.0.50; describe `describe-prefix-bindings' in Emacs manual Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 8904 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 8904@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.130858975615289 (code B ref -1); Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:10:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2011 17:09:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QYhyO-0003yY-6n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:09:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QYhyN-0003yN-3W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:09:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QYhyG-00047v-D3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:09:09 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:35653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QYhyG-00047p-4B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:09:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39984) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QYhyE-0008SR-95 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:09:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QYhyD-00047e-2c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:09:06 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:52909) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QYhyC-00047Y-NG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:09:04 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p5KH918B031048 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:09:03 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5KH90v9002032 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:09:01 GMT Received: from abhmt009.oracle.com (abhmt009.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p5KH8tV9011463 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:08:55 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:08:54 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:08:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcwvbLy4R+is+inPTSGvx0SCEqNXSw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4DFF7EAF.00D9:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) Consider mentioning command `describe-prefix-bindings' in the Emacs manual. It is mentioned only in the Elisp manual, but it is for users (interactive). In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-06-13 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.5) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/build/include' From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8904: 24.0.50; describe `describe-prefix-bindings' in Emacs manual Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:35:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8904 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 8904@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8904-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8904.13107404508136 (code B ref 8904); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:35:03 +0000 Received: (at 8904) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 14:34:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhjSz-000278-9u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:34:09 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhjSs-000266-7V for 8904@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:34:07 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhjSf-0003b9-9c; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:33:49 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:08:55 -0700") Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:21:29 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Miles of Aisles_: "Circle Game" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:8904@debbugs.gnu.org::7PWIgFUBh+9ebZx6:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000aBTZ X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:drew.adams@oracle.com::fWihNkwg8qgvLlGn:0000000000000000000000000000000000000001o/h8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QhjSf-0003b9-9c X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311345229.36057@pV8bpDdODXCuqvYZdpAokQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: > Consider mentioning command `describe-prefix-bindings' in the Emacs > manual. It is mentioned only in the Elisp manual, but it is for users > (interactive). Why is that function interactive? I mean, how could it be used interactively? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8904: 24.0.50; describe `describe-prefix-bindings' in Emacs manual Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8904 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 8904@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Received: via spool by 8904-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8904.131074323219321 (code B ref 8904); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 8904) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 15:20:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkBr-00051a-6r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:20:31 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkBo-00051N-Vk for 8904@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:20:29 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F531C1D9FF; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:20:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.8.164]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1101C000A6; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:20:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.8.164]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hs6VqDIVHNOG; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:20:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from igel.home (ppp-93-104-144-171.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.144.171]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:20:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 32FA8CA293; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:20:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: X-Yow: Now I am depressed... Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:20:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:21:29 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Why is that function interactive? I mean, how could it be used > interactively? Just how it is used now. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8904: 24.0.50; describe `describe-prefix-bindings' in Emacs manual Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:29:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8904 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 8904@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Received: via spool by 8904-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8904.131074368820061 (code B ref 8904); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:29:04 +0000 Received: (at 8904) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 15:28:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkJB-0005DQ-MS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:28:07 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkHw-0005BG-RY for 8904@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:26:51 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkHk-0004of-7p; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:26:36 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:20:18 +0200") Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:26:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEUwMi75+eydo5BgZlT+ //L+//h/gm7+//v////BzMj+//Y1EW/uAAACIUlEQVQ4jZ2Uv6vbMBDHDwSGjIIseVORQeBNWCDI +MBdshVecOkULBBkb7Dp1qHYqz0UtDsU8lf2K8tx/B7p0oP4HH10P3y6E/Eo2+KdvHLiQd/ucj1O ch1faVvc/9VlWdc1fpfy+A3ggPV6JU14XAKYF7ooTdN1bX0paHudtnVraet6pG0ZQVOvQAPwAsB7 zvsdf5g1s0Xvd33v+6+L0d2ViJINrnJCVNkCnNPaOOtOFETvPwBnFGnSRm3eAV1JV0lFcHhGvm8z sFpnVgurEgCP6G9TutoEV1o7oXOR+QiCBTGrmCNWuUwMEcQYlEhiJ5ZIK6z3vo/gD4ARihHLUpZn DxA+0PzWyN+ciJ39bgWGRKTEtFJE+cMCZZd2wBpTBo8MdWu6Fll9Bgi1YIacIuazYBEAggtiCCG1 U6hA3s8guAqlYz4V0Crp/QLSkNPGpywUdwFwlRJZpQUiKU1sDbRLmc11yIzoXiuATzgEsnsdD0ou oDthH5m9zYMms1S3OwUn9uxkBaLoHGOgJAp5GltVQoYEzH4GXa2yxElrK3QKPl4voM0F1qwyQsgH eEF7MuFwuMoAS4TbzKBrVTUVBR1UWdIqggM61vc7HwRqGAafLWAlP4FDdb9/BL/4F86fWdwn5J9g /B9QPwNon0P5jGDOi3I15IunHwDTnLdx1JsWoxzmfLoycLccg9nlcpw03m7FfPsUxeE2Tvo2Yt9Y cP4XtEekOQ6R9KgAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Mingus_ X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:schwab@linux-m68k.org::LIVuc071VB+tjTkV:00000000000000000000000000000000000000007cau X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:drew.adams@oracle.com::EE8MGRsLUFM0V5We:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000KBsK X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:8904@debbugs.gnu.org::k45YCtYciAYAsfiO:00000000000000000000000000000000000000001gfTI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QhkHk-0004of-7p X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311348396.37062@ewzirYJW/O1YYHFIioL4qA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Andreas Schwab writes: >> Why is that function interactive? I mean, how could it be used >> interactively? > > Just how it is used now. I've only used it once, and this is how that went: `M-x describe-prefix-bindings' Global Bindings Starting With M-x d e s c r i b e - p r e f i x - b i n d i n g s: key binding --- ------- [back] I was not enlightened. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8904: 24.0.50; describe `describe-prefix-bindings' in Emacs manual Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8904 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" , "'Andreas Schwab'" Cc: 8904@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8904-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8904.131074445324531 (code B ref 8904); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 8904) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 15:40:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkVY-0006Nc-Lh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:40:52 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkVV-0006NN-FU for 8904@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:40:50 -0400 Received: from rtcsinet21.oracle.com (rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6FFeegm003622 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:40:42 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by rtcsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6FFed85003665 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:40:39 GMT Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6FFeXUF022578; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:40:33 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.34.212) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:40:33 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:40:32 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxDA58XVPQKkNkKSCuLfoRgjGC5ZwAARIgg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4E205F7B.0135:SCFSTAT5015188, ss=1, re=-4.000, fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) > I was not enlightened. Lars, you need better doc for this command. ;-) Seriously. To enlighten yourself and thus help in coming up with that doc: 1. See what the Elisp manual says, as the bug report indicated. 2. Consult the code, in help.el. In #2 you will see this: ;; Make C-h after a prefix, when not specifically bound, ;; run describe-prefix-bindings. (setq prefix-help-command 'describe-prefix-bindings) Maybe this will help you see why code comments are not substitutes for doc strings. Had appropriate info been available to you interactively via `C-h f describe-prefix-bindings' you would not have needed to ask others or consult the code. Now try it: C-x C-h C-x RET C-h M-s C-h ... Another lesson learned: Not every command is designed to work best with `M-x'. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8904: 24.0.50; describe `describe-prefix-bindings' in Emacs manual Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8904 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 8904@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Andreas Schwab' Received: via spool by 8904-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8904.131074493225246 (code B ref 8904); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 8904) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 15:48:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkdH-0006Z8-M8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:48:52 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkdG-0006Yn-9B for 8904@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:48:50 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhkd2-0008TX-NI; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:48:36 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:40:32 -0700") Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:48:18 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Night Ride Home_: "Cherokee Louise" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:8904@debbugs.gnu.org::/xYEBxZvE7WlsHDV:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000BJ5Y X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:drew.adams@oracle.com::lSu501P+LL1lOU00:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000qIBE X-Hashcash: 1:23:110715:schwab@linux-m68k.org::DHaxZtJLFLZW5Usl:0000000000000000000000000000000000000001JXfl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qhkd2-0008TX-NI X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311349716.80663@j2bKPevRgSBBG2pHX44aeg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: > Lars, you need better doc for this command. ;-) Seriously. Or better bug reports. I've now added `describe-prefix-bindings' to the "Misc Help" node in the Emacs manual. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 15 11:48:48 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 15:48:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkdE-0006Yv-0v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:48:48 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkdA-0006Yg-MT for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:48:45 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhkcz-0008TQ-GC for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:48:33 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:48:32 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #8904 X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qhkcz-0008TQ-GC X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311349713.60616@GbHnfClKDcuK/7nqArTb5g X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) tags 8904 fixed close 8904 24.1 From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:58:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#8904: 24.0.50; describe `describe-prefix-bindings' in Emacs manual Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8904 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" Cc: 8904@debbugs.gnu.org, "'8904@debbugs.gnu.org \"'Andreas Schwab'\"'" Received: via spool by 8904-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8904.131074604230309 (code B ref 8904); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:08:02 +0000 Received: (at 8904) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2011 16:07:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhkvB-0007so-Jf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:07:21 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhkv8-0007sW-Qd for 8904@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:07:19 -0400 Received: from rtcsinet21.oracle.com (rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6FG5PLr021248 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:05:35 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by rtcsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6FG5OKG015617 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:05:25 GMT Received: from abhmt117.oracle.com (abhmt117.oracle.com [141.146.116.69]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6FG5JoS002654; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:05:19 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.34.212) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:05:19 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:05:19 -0700 Message-ID: <453F37B3AE1947E3B9F7ADFB99EE9D9C@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxDBrOpeqr5GXh3S7iuX5iAjsoLoQAAcf4g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4E2065B0.00D7:SCFSTAT5015188, ss=1, re=-4.000, fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) > > Lars, you need better doc for this command. ;-) Seriously. > > Or better bug reports. It's not up to a bug report to teach what the function does or how it's implemented or used. This bug report was to say that this is not sufficiently documented. > I've now added `describe-prefix-bindings' to the "Misc Help" > node in the Emacs manual. Thanks. Hopefully you added some of the info I provided that helped you understand, so that other users will also understand. Likewise for the doc string (and perhaps for the text in the Elisp manual too). The goal should be for someone like Lars to be able to understand this function by reading its doc: what it's for, how to use it, what it does.